Servers are full. Grats JP/GMT players. NA = Screwed.

[ThePatriarch]

I think rather than waste any more time on further arguments/moot points, we should all talk about something else.

By now we all know that despite our reactions/thoughts, SE is not going to change anything. The servers are going to stay messed up until the end of this merge. Then we will have to deal with people camping on their computers hoping for a server to temporarily pop up with Limited Space. Then we can enjoy the raging threads about how everything sucks.

My mind is boggled on how badly SE manages their MMO's.

[Aikasa]

Please SquareEnix, remove unactive players!!!

[TheVedis]

I think rather than waste any more time on further arguments/moot points, we should all talk about something else.
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and yet here you are....again

[Zdenka]

i have to disagree here. option 2 is more for people that wanted a merge with more people to play with in general and keep their servers in tact. i am much much happier with the option we are using now. at least this way you have a few ls's that wanted to leave their community getting stuck. the other way you would have had complete servers split into pieces.

Yeah, can be difference of opinions here because people are in different situations and etc. For example I am from Cornelia and we have like ~90 NA players at max, so it wouldn't be hard to coordinate them all in option 4 if they all desired to play together still.

I am sure some players don't want to play on the server they are on either, but I guess that's not enough for them to just choose Ragnarok? haha

Option 2 is def. better if inactives want to come back though, I won't deny that.

Either way I guess I am impartial, but I liked the amount of choice you receive with option 4. Such as coordinating people across servers to be on the same server; which is slightly more difficult on option 2 (unless Ragnarok, again lol). You would have also seen a lot more new people from different backgrounds. Its sort of like accents, midwestern, boston etc. On WoW I played on Garona, and when I made an alt on a different server to play with my friend they actually referred to different things with terms I was unfamiliar with. Stuff like that gets to be interesting

[Michu_Saroo]

i dont know about anyone else noticing, but something tells me they arent updating it during the weekend
so camping it anytime from now til late night tonight/tomorow is pointless

I don't know if you're just trolling or not but they said they would update the page in the between the evening and morning hours each day, which to me means every day including weekends. Maybe that's wrong but you're information is purely speculative and contrary to what the developers said themselves in this thread.

[darkstarpoet1]

Please SquareEnix, remove unactive players!!!

why would you want to remove inactive players? it's been shown multiple times that inactives have nothing at all to do with the servers being full. they set a cap and it is based on active players.

Yeah, can be difference of opinions here because people are in different situations and etc. For example I am from Cornelia and we have like ~90 NA players at max, so it wouldn't be hard to coordinate them all in option 4 if they all desired to play together still.

I am sure some players don't want to play on the server they are on either, but I guess that's not enough for them to just choose Ragnarok? haha

Option 2 is def. better if inactives want to come back though, I won't deny that.

Either way I guess I am impartial, but I liked the amount of choice you receive with option 4. Such as coordinating people across servers to be on the same server; which is slightly more difficult on option 2 (unless Ragnarok, again lol). You would have also seen a lot more new people from different backgrounds. Its sort of like accents, midwestern, boston etc. On WoW I played on Garona, and when I made an alt on a different server to play with my friend they actually referred to different things with terms I was unfamiliar with. Stuff like that gets to be interesting

but here's the issue though. during option 4 there is nothing stopping the server from filling and the ls getting split up just the same as it does if you optionally transfer here. here your entire ls stays together and all of your friends stay together automatically unless you are using the optional transfer. the difference is in the original option everyone is forced to try and coordinate and go to the same place and now people are put in the same place by default. remember they opened the merges during jp primetime so what was stopping all the jp from filling the vast majority of the servers and the na players just trying to get in wherever they can?

if we look at any other mmo this is nothing more than the standard merge with an additional benefit. when other mmo's merge servers they just shove server a and server b together. some mmo's allow a server transfer after the merges are complete, but they charge you for that transfer. i anything i feel they should have went with the straight merge like the original mmo's did and then 2 weeks later gave an optional transfer so it wasn't making the merge process so confusing. i still say this way is much better for the larger percentage of the population.

[Michu_Saroo]

why would you want to remove inactive players? it's been shown multiple times that inactives have nothing at all to do with the servers being full. they set a cap and it is based on active players.



but here's the issue though. during option 4 there is nothing stopping the server from filling and the ls getting split up just the same as it does if you optionally transfer here. here your entire ls stays together and all of your friends stay together automatically unless you are using the optional transfer. the difference is in the original option everyone is forced to try and coordinate and go to the same place and now people are put in the same place by default. remember they opened the merges during jp primetime so what was stopping all the jp from filling the vast majority of the servers and the na players just trying to get in wherever they can?

if we look at any other mmo this is nothing more than the standard merge with an additional benefit. when other mmo's merge servers they just shove server a and server b together. some mmo's allow a server transfer after the merges are complete, but they charge you for that transfer. i anything i feel they should have went with the straight merge like the original mmo's did and then 2 weeks later gave an optional transfer so it wasn't making the merge process so confusing. i still say this way is much better for the larger percentage of the population.

Why do you keep arguing about options? No one voted for a retarded process that was completely ineffective. They expected the choices to give them the option of moving to a new server and the way SE executed this was as usual bungled and frustrating for their customers. The bottom line is this is their game and they make the final decisions on how to execute a process.

[darkstarpoet1]

Why do you keep arguing about options? No one voted for a retarded process that was completely ineffective. They expected the choices to give them the option of moving to a new server and the way SE executed this was as usual bungled and frustrating for their customers. The bottom line is this is their game and they make the final decisions on how to execute a process.

it could possibly have to do with someone quoted me and respectfully gave their opinion. if you have something to contribute feel free to do so.

btw, you are wrong and this is what people asked for. they went ballistic and asked for a straight merge and not having to split up communities. that's what was given. they also added an option where if you wanted to leave your community and go to another server you could do so. granted, if you want to move it is an inconvenience, but i will bet you the majority on each server is going to the server they want. the difference between this merge and what other mmo's offer is this one didn't charge you to move so they made you check the servers constantly to see if there was an opening to move to.

[ThePatriarch]

and yet here you are....again

Thanks for pointing that out. You have made us aware

[Michu_Saroo]

it could possibly have to do with someone quoted me and respectfully gave their opinion. if you have something to contribute feel free to do so.

btw, you are wrong and this is what people asked for. they went ballistic and asked for a straight merge and not having to split up communities. that's what was given. they also added an option where if you wanted to leave your community and go to another server you could do so. granted, if you want to move it is an inconvenience, but i will bet you the majority on each server is going to the server they want. the difference between this merge and what other mmo's offer is this one didn't charge you to move so they made you check the servers constantly to see if there was an opening to move to.

The ability to select a new server is not an inconvenience, it's an impossibility. There is only one server open to move to so the "option" that everyone voted for is just a false choice. If it happened the way people expected (as in they could actually choose a server) then no one here would be complaining. That's why it doesn't make sense for you to continue to argue that anyone got what they wanted because they didn't.