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    Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

    So, you invented what for me is the best game ever, you a kind the God of gaming and please take this as a devoted prayer. The concept of parsing in-game is damaging our community and taking all the fun from this game, I always thought the concept of playing videogames is to have fun and online games should create a jubilant sense of aggregation among people, sharing achievements and cheer about but with the parses obsession many gamers have all of that is gone and replaced by a community of selfish people that care only about themselves and numbers, I mean on PF lately the situation degenerated. Nobody cares anymore about the game itself, I doubt many people still have fun and most important they take all the fun out from passionate players like me. Gamers greed, greed and greed, I don't see NINs use Shadewalker to help the tanks is ages, or anyone use enmity decreaser anymore, I see people argue about who gets the dragoon DS or PLDs forget about their interventions or other defensive single/raid wide skils, also most of the players don't use stuff like Adle, Reprisal, Feint. Sometimes in a simple weekly clear we need to wipe 3/4 times because of a melee greed on extra skills or they just get killed on basic stuff, the examples could be uncountable. For healers like me, it's even worst because all pressure is on you and people judge you not for your abilities or effectiveness on solving a crisis or save others from their own mistakes but for the amount of damage you deal, I mean it is easy to heal in a perfect party but a good healer you see it in difficult times! The concept of BIS that everybody is crazy about it's pointless for healers and tanks because what really matters I think are their skills of adapting and solving. The parses don't tell how many people ignore mechs or get hit by laser, beams, missiles or whatever when they shouldn't. I can keep everybody alive and do a great job with 2500 or 1000 Crit, with or without food doesn't really matter but sometimes I am forced to heal alone because the other healer wants a purple log and that's not fair! Same concept if someone wants to level up a new class FOR FUN or because it's an enjoyable new challenge, it's not possible because others treat you bad. I mean nobody can't deal 5/6 k of DPS with ALL their classes but still if you don't you get kicked! Same when you release some amazing new EX trial if someone fancy to farm it to get new weapons or to just play, you can't because they expect you to be a top player with their class or they throw you away. Long story short, the parses system create a real sort of DISCRIMINATION in the ffxiv world and that's really sad. We are in 2018 and still, it happens, if not for your skin colour or your social status or the clothes you wear, now even playing a game it happens...This system should be changed and I hope you will do something about.

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    John
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    How about.....No.
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    Indeed. It forces discrimination against people who don't want to learn their job and expect others to pick up the slack for them. It forces people to accept that the jobs in this game are meant to be played a certain way that doesn't line up with their personal vision of how things should be. This kind of discrimination is totally fine with me.
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    Make your own groups then?
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    You don't pay my sub.
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    You don't pay my sub.
    DAMN IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Long story short, the parses system create a real sort of DISCRIMINATION in the ffxiv world and that's really sad. We are in 2018 and still, it happens, if not for your skin colour or your social status or the clothes you wear, now even playing a game it happens.
    It's not discrimination if people just don't want to play with you....you can't force people to play with you in a MMO if they don't want to...just like you can't force people irl to be your friend if they don't want to...

    Comparing people not wanting to play with you on a MMO to serious real life issues of discrimination based on skin colour or social status is just really really wrong.


    Edit: Thank you Lazlo~

    Edit 2: We really need a new patch
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    Last edited by Miste; 07-20-2018 at 12:48 PM.

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    Omg that’s not the problem dear, It’s the ideology behind parses that is bad . Btw I don’t have any problem cos I am a fantastic healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Omg that’s not the problem dear, It’s the ideology behind parses that is bad . Btw I don’t have any problem cos I am a fantastic healer
    My ideology behind parses is how to improve vs mechanics. What is your point? That some idiots use them as e-peen meters? That lasted very shortly in WoW and shouldn't be considered as a thing in FF14 at all.

    Want to know what really matters? Clearing 200 solo, clearing kefka god, etc...

    That's when parses matter globally. The rest of the time they are an indicator of if you should read up on your class, learn about a boss fight or mechanics, etc...

    You can clear most content with your thumb in a special place and people will usually not comment about it, if they do, you're either in a farm party - for which you should definitely know what the heck you're doing - or it's misplaced. Yet every opportunity of learning is on you.

    If you're in a learning party, you should ask questions if you're not sure. If you're blind and ask nothing after 1-2 wipes, that's on you and you're wasting everyone's time.

    There are legitimately very few occasions where it's on you but if you're in those situations, don't be the idiot.

    Edit: again, if idiots keep teasing you about logs/meters, report them. Don't assume they're the only ones running them. Most run them for themselves.
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    Last edited by Lazlo69; 07-20-2018 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Omg that’s not the problem dear, It’s the ideology behind parses that is bad . Btw I don’t have any problem cos I am a fantastic healer
    doubt


    I like how you are judging parsers and people using them while you obviously don't know how they work and/or how they are used in the higher percentage raiding scene. While I agree people might move out of their way and ignore mechanics or greed to get out that last GCD this is by far not that dramatic. Ok, maybe the party wipes, well, shit happens. Just stand up, shake off the dust and try again. People are salty and toxic even without parses, hell they even are without any real reason to begin with!

    You say you only want to have fun in the game.. well then... just have fun? If you meet such people then just shrug, leave the party and join another one or create one yourself. ö.ö Why even letting these people get on your nerves in the first place. Just move on.



    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Oh, I know. ^^ I’m already aware they’re trolling—it only took the “I’m amazing!” comments to show me that lol.
    I would say he/she is not trolling but maybe just butthurt bc one or multiple partys refused to do content with the person?
    Tbf this is not unlikely on Chaos, when doing weekly savage runs or ex primal farms a hand full of people tend to check the logs of people joining their PFs when tehy have the time (if groups are filling slowly for example) and I've seen it before that people got removed or partys got disbanded before even filling up. It's really rare, but it happens.
    While I don't really support something like this it's really nothing you can do something about. It's 100% up to the party leader to decide who he wants to play with. Hell, he can even kick you from the party for playing the wrong race and that is totally legit.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 07-20-2018 at 04:04 PM.
    I don't know, man.

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