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  1. #51
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    Nixxe's Avatar
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    The job definitely needs work. Virtually every spell having an identical cast time and no cooldown just makes the gameplay weird. Whether they make it a full job or not, the abilities should be set up like normal abilities. Something like Bristle should have a CD, not a cast time. Potencies also need to be sorted out.
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  2. #52
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    The "role flexibility" is basically non-existent because what it's supposed to be able to do can be done better by other roles on account of not being gimped by the role it's in or even just by regular mechanics found in instances.
    Currently the only role it falters at is healer. Reasons being lack of party buffs, no esuna, no raise, and its only heal spell is based on their current HP making it inconsistent. It could be ridiculously OP on 1 cast and almost negligible the next if the caster takes a heavy hit. Well there is 1 other option but that kills the caster.

    Utilizing skills currently available its possible to make BLU nearly as competent as a lv 50 tank in ilvl 130 gear.

    However it feels like a lot of you assume OP means BLU is supposed to do as much damage at lv 50 in ilvl 130 gear as your lv 70 dps does in ilvl 400 gear allowing it to solo clear any content while sipping a cup of tea.

    Other things with BLU as it is currently.

    Claims that status effects or certain skills don't count because they don't work on bosses. Other jobs face this as well. Its nothing new. However most non boss enemies don't have these immunities. Add to that many of BLU's AoE skills don't have a damage fall off per target like AoEs from other jobs and they easily claim a top spot in crowd control at their current level of relevant content. If you think otherwise then equip your job with ilvl 130 gear and do a lv 50 duty synced.

    Some of the blu spell combos are quite OP as well at lv 50 if you pull them off. I'd like to see some combos IMO that didn't rely on status effects though. Or the addition of some type of combo mechanic that would encourage people to cast more than 1 or 2 spells primarily.
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  3. #53
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    Personally I rather they go even further with the limited job aspect, and I am looking forward to gathering the new sets of skills when they are released and messing around with said skills.

    I cannot wait to see how busted they can make BLU for the other level ranges.
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  4. #54
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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Currently the only role it falters at is healer. Reasons being lack of party buffs, no esuna, no raise, and its only heal spell is based on their current HP making it inconsistent. It could be ridiculously OP on 1 cast and almost negligible the next if the caster takes a heavy hit. Well there is 1 other option but that kills the caster.
    It also falters at being a tank, as it takes more damage than the other tanks, has less health, and its only mitigation skill can be cancelled by boss autos. Not to mention the fact that while its tanking it does basically no damage to the point where a halone spamming pld in shield oath will still out damage it, whilst also out mitigating it. This is also not mentioning how it can't easily tank swap or gain and maintain aggro outside of spamming white wind.
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  5. #55
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    Ruru_Nayu's Avatar
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    Character
    Ruru Nayu
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Make a so advertised "Solo job"
    Make the players farm primal abilities, in groups. *galaxy brain*
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  6. #56
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    Beetle Juice
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
    Nope i'm not.
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  7. #57
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    It also falters at being a tank, as it takes more damage than the other tanks, has less health, and its only mitigation skill can be cancelled by boss autos. Not to mention the fact that while its tanking it does basically no damage to the point where a halone spamming pld in shield oath will still out damage it, whilst also out mitigating it. This is also not mentioning how it can't easily tank swap or gain and maintain aggro outside of spamming white wind.
    Then I would say you're doing it wrong and need to spend some time actually reading the full descriptions of your skills.
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  8. #58
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Then I would say you're doing it wrong and need to spend some time actually reading the full descriptions of your skills.
    Explain to me where im wrong in my summary. Diamond back gets cancelled by boss autos, even with mightyguard, blu takes more damage than a tank and deals way less damage. The only decent aggro skills are the Look and white wind with mighy guard up, and they dont have provoke for tank swaps. But please tell me what im doing wrong, im ready to be enlightened as to what i havent read. (Spoilers, I wrote BLU guides I dont think ive missed anything)
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  9. #59
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Explain to me where im wrong in my summary. Diamond back gets cancelled by boss autos, even with mightyguard, blu takes more damage than a tank and deals way less damage. The only decent aggro skills are the Look and white wind with mighy guard up, and they dont have provoke for tank swaps. But please tell me what im doing wrong, im ready to be enlightened as to what i havent read. (Spoilers, I wrote BLU guides I dont think ive missed anything)
    what boss autos break diamondback? i just tested this on a number of bosses, and saw it working as advertised.

    That said, the blu mage isnt as good as a pure tank, but they are way more durable than any non tank job. and through smart play/timing they can mitigate/survive/ignore mechanics
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  10. #60
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    what boss autos break diamondback? i just tested this on a number of bosses, and saw it working as advertised.

    That said, the blu mage isnt as good as a pure tank, but they are way more durable than any non tank job. and through smart play/timing they can mitigate/survive/ignore mechanics
    I've had it happen to me personally against ifrit, and other users have reported it too, sorry we can't confirm more than that. With Smart play, mechanics can be avoided with bard, cover, tank LB, ect. Yes they are way more durable than non tank jobs, but damage tradeoff isn't worth it at all. Real Tanks are more durable AND do more damage, and this is a damage centric mmo, so its not really worth it, so blu could not sub in as a multi role.
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