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  1. #1
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    Anesteria's Avatar
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    Isavella Jerisfaldar
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 50

    Please make Blue Mage a normal job

    It is incorrect to call so many restrictions “freedom”. By being barred from 90% of the content there is nothing you can really do other than 1 thing that awards little to nothing.

    Balance is not a good argument either to keep BLU as a limited job, since balance will never be perfect and people will always try to min-max one way or another, while those who don’t care won’t care either way, you can’t change that, but you can change the class to fit.

    Let us not forget that all the classes had to be changed for the sake of gameplay, you can do the same for BLU, and people who like BLU would much prefer to have a job you can use everywhere rather than what we got now.

    Timegating an entire job is not the way to go after it’s been declared that BLU will not even be lvl 70 by the time Shadowbringers ends. So it fails as a solo experience because you’ll never be able to do any current content or enjoy the story solo as a Blue Mage, as there is no proper structure to support solo play.

    It’s a problem that can only be solved by removing the limited job system before it ruins other jobs. If you want to create more content then make something like the Carnival for EACH job, but stuff like this shouldn't be the only option, just an additional piece.
    I think people will be happy even if it takes you 1 year to make BLU playable, take your time but please reconsider its current situation, even the Japanese are unhappy.

    EDIT:
    Since my days have come to an end (my sub) on Eorzea, I wanted to make a few things clear by first addressing "limited jobs" (and other stuff like genderlocking) as I do not think it's a good direction for the game.

    However, people have come up with good suggestions on how everyone can be made happy by making it so the type of content the limited jobs are allegedly supposed to deliver, do not require to be completely removed.
    In fact, it was entirely possible to not throw an entire job under the bus, but could have been introduced by using the already existing classes. If the resources existed to make BLU, then they existed in adding a similar system that allowed the other jobs to play in their own content, all tailored specifically to their needs and "solo" too.

    If there is a way to make everyone happy (and it exists) I don't see how people in general would even be against it in principle.
    Because for those who are, just because you're fine it doesn't mean that it is fine for others.

    To all my fellow Blue Mage supporters, let us hope the future will be a better one for all, so that we may reach the promised land!

    To Square Enix: farewell, until the day comes when BLU will be given the respect it deserves as a class. And it may be never, but at least I'll know that my money won't fuel the future carnage that will destroy other jobs.
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    Last edited by Anesteria; 04-16-2019 at 06:10 AM. Reason: Final Edit

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    Raldo Volca
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I enjoyed it as the sideshow that it is. With that said, I've also already done everything you can do with it.

    Also, there's a million bajillion threads about this already.
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    Last edited by Raldo; 03-16-2019 at 01:13 AM. Reason: Corrected grammatical error way super late.

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    Isavella Jerisfaldar
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    Blue Mage Lv 50
    Well, it's a means to demonstrate the dissatisfaction and the fact many are upset worldwide, should be telling that it is something that needs to be looked at with more than points that don't stand up to scrutiny. I think it's our right to do so since the forums are also meant for this, to bring attention to this issue. If it's something that upsets people I can only apologise for my own instance, but it is something I wanted to do anyway.
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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Bard Lv 80
    The most difficult part of BLU would be balancing future content with a job that potentially has a bajillion abilities in mind. And honestly I could see them going the XI route where new abilities are just old ones but slightly better.

    In other words, BLU has no reason to be limited. As it stands now, it's only good for soloing boss FATEs.
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    The most difficult part of BLU would be balancing future content with a job that potentially has a bajillion abilities in mind. And honestly I could see them going the XI route where new abilities are just old ones but slightly better.

    In other words, BLU has no reason to be limited. As it stands now, it's only good for soloing boss FATEs.
    I would like it to be matched with current jobs in regards to level cap and maybe have a proper weapon. However because of role flexibility and the level of customization of skills coupled with being able to technically progress job level while missing nearly all of your spells I would not want it queueable through duty finder outside of premade parties. Add it to squadron missions, diadem, eureka, and the ability to do solo MSQ duties with it sure. The only possible compromise I would allow personally for DF usage would be that players are required to clear all cap tier stages of the masked carnival just to be able to queue into DF at all without a full premade party and that it would only allow access to duties up to that cap tier or expansion. Current masked carnival for ARR content, a lvl 60 set for HW content, a lv 70 set for SB content, and a lv 80 set for Shadowbringers content.


    If they are set on not giving raw stats on BLU weapons then atleast make it more than a glamour and provide different spell type/element bonuses to them so there is some sort of tactical consideration to that particular slot.
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    The most difficult part of BLU would be balancing future content with a job that potentially has a bajillion abilities in mind. And honestly I could see them going the XI route where new abilities are just old ones but slightly better.

    In other words, BLU has no reason to be limited. As it stands now, it's only good for soloing boss FATEs.
    blu is OP for a level 50 job. can duo content faster than a 4 man. peoples perspective it is not broken, is in comparison to level 70 jobs. I could be down with altering where its locked out, and level cap closer to max, but for the job to be what it is, it needs to be outside Regular use.
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I enjoyed it for what it was. Looking forward to more BLU content in the future.
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Some spells need to be instant (Bristle, Off-guard, Song of Torment), others need a cd (Sticky Tongue), some need to be instant AND have a cd (Loom, Diamondback, Faze, Snort), more combo skills like Ram>Dragon Voice or Aqua Breath>High Voltage would be nice, and the oh so deadly 1 hit KO spells (Missile, Doom, Tail Screw) already miss/fail half the time. BLU can easily fit as a normal job with a few tweaks without really changing how it already works. Heck, with some improvements to White Wind and/or Mighty Guard it could even be the first multi role job.

    *a year later*

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    with some improvements to White Wind and/or Mighty Guard it could even be the first multi role job.
    I was mostly right! we're getting there lol
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    Last edited by Allegor; 10-03-2020 at 04:02 PM.

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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I would like it to be matched with current jobs in regards to level cap and maybe have a proper weapon. However because of role flexibility and the level of customization of skills coupled with being able to technically progress job level while missing nearly all of your spells I would not want it queueable through duty finder outside of premade parties. Add it to squadron missions, diadem, eureka, and the ability to do solo MSQ duties with it sure. The only possible compromise I would allow personally for DF usage would be that players are required to clear all cap tier stages of the masked carnival just to be able to queue into DF at all without a full premade party and that it would only allow access to duties up to that cap tier or expansion. Current masked carnival for ARR content, a lvl 60 set for HW content, a lv 70 set for SB content, and a lv 80 set for Shadowbringers content.


    If they are set on not giving raw stats on BLU weapons then atleast make it more than a glamour and provide different spell type/element bonuses to them so there is some sort of tactical consideration to that particular slot.
    The "role flexibility" is basically non-existent because what it's supposed to be able to do can be done better by other roles on account of not being gimped by the role it's in or even just by regular mechanics found in instances.
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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    blu is OP for a level 50 job. can duo content faster than a 4 man. peoples perspective it is not broken, is in comparison to level 70 jobs. I could be down with altering where its locked out, and level cap closer to max, but for the job to be what it is, it needs to be outside Regular use.
    A full party of BLU can't even do Brayflox normal let alone two of them. Two BLU can't even go through any of the level 50 instances where a good sized portion of its kit is found without at least one seventy to barrel through mechanics that would he lethal to the BLU or pick them up if those mechanics aren't done or skippable.
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