Dungeon+ system?

[qqmoarploxify]

Leveling up there's always an abundance of these great dungeons that never really seem to meet their full potential.

Could a system that just raises the difficulty of these dungeons linearly be beneficial to the level cap of FF14?

I know some dungeons get hard or extreme modes but they aren't really the same dungeon, same layout but usually different bosses. I'd love infinitely scaling dungeons, would add so many different options at level cap for dungeons you could do. Would be okay if you had to manually find a group for these as well.

NOTE: Awesome dungeons like Doma castle, Ala mhigo, Castrum Abania... would be really cool for all these dungeons to stay relevant throughout the expansion they came from and it's a system you could bring easily into future expansions and dungeons.

[TaiyoShikasu]

Something something Mythic+ part 402.

[qqmoarploxify]

Something something Mythic+ part 402.

If there's lots of posts like this, maybe they should test the waters with a system like it?

I mean you don't think it would be cool to keep dungeons relevant?

[Caitlinzulu]

You would have to give people some incentive to run them though.

[qqmoarploxify]

You would have to give people some incentive to run them though.

For sure! I wouldn't know where to begin for rewards. Materia or tomes maybe?

[Caitlinzulu]

Materia wouldnt work i think, they are too easy to get otherwise. Tomes perhaps but not shure since its not that hard to cap.
Perhaps some glamour gear and have something along the line of a lightfarm where higher levels give more light.

[van_arn]

See also: minimum ilvl.

Nobody uses it.

[Nyxn607]

I wouldn't mind a Extreme style dungeon, however I would not want it to just be the same as the original dungeon. I would prefer new mobs, new bosses, new mechanics, and new loot. To get what you are after, you could do X dugneon on normal mode, then hard, then Ex, then Ex +, Ex ++, etc ... For all EX and up, the mobs and bosses would remain the same, however the mechanics would be altered in each individual run. By this I mean, you could run Snowcloak Ex 20 different times and each run would be a different variation of mechanics you might see. For example on the first run you would see the first boss use 3 different mechanics of which being 2 different types of AoE's and the third being tank buster. The next run, you could see 5 mechanics, none of which being the same as the first run for the same boss. The third run you may only see 1 mechanic and it could be one you have seen before, or one you haven't.

Of course there would be a limit to the types of mechanics a single boss may have (I am thinking 10 being the max), and you could see any number and variations of these mechanics on a given run. Every level of ex (ex, ex+, ex ++, etc..) would have a different set of bosses, but each run of Ex ++ would have the same bosses, just variations of mechanics.

As far as rewards, you could potentially get special mounts, hairstyles, special dyes, minions, rare drops such as top tier armor upgrade mats, and glamour gear.

Maybe you could make Ex +++ and higher drop top tier armor or weapons? I don't see this one being very well perceived, as raiders already complain about the relic weapon being able to rival their precious raid tier weapons. Heaven forbid other people could get top tier armor/weapons a different way (eye roll).

[Shurrikhan]

All for it, but I'd hope they go the extra mile to give it unique rewards, ideally in such a way as to come into a progression system of its own that fits its difficulty progression.

[deadman1204]

While alot of them get steamrolled, I do run into 2 group types frequently:
1. Newbies - they don't play their class well because they are still learning the game
2. Bad players - not newbies. They don't have a leaf, often have bad/empty gear slots and still play at a newbie level.


Both of these groups would totally fail if normal dungeons got harder. But all of group2 would always queue for the harder dungeons because of better exp.