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  1. #11
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    Chiami's Avatar
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    Chiami Jishin
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    Would more for ALL be great? Of course. But we have to remember strains and resource usage. Smalls, by and large, can be decorated fairly easily with the current item limit, I have one that is PLASTERED with small items everywhere. Mediums on the other hand can be a stretch already and fine touches are nearly impossible to do except maybe here and there with specific designs. Large houses though? I still have to see a mansion that wasn't either by design left with HUGE empty spaces, or had easily half the space walled off to make the decorated space look like anything but an empty loft.

    So smalls aren't in a bad place right now, while large are still in a VERY bad place, and mediums in a "meh" place (as mentioned in my own post about the same topic recently).

    Just look at the differences in available space between small, medium and large and you can see how almost ridiculous it is to give mediums only 100 items more, large 200 more, while they have MULTIPlES of space compared to a small with 200 items max.

    I think in the end it comes down to priorities -- there are fewer people with mediums and larges, but they still suffer considerable problems, which makes getting a medium or large feel easily like a dream that then falls flat on its face once you get to set up your new "home". Considering this overall resource hogging might be less (?) by increasing their slots due to lower numbers, yet it would also impact fewer people. Increasing the amount for all, apartments and smalls included, would be a massive strain on the resources... and we have to ask how many owners of smalls and apartments would actually really benefit in any significant way from it. I honestly can't answer that question for sure, and I doubt anyone can.

    Personally though I think that in terms of priority bandaging a hemorrhaging wound (nearly ALL larges remaining 50-75% empty and without any finishing touches, and mediums are often also left without finishing touches or worse) takes precedent over one that is just occasionally twitching a bit (some specific designs for smalls here and there could do with a bit more items).

    So if possible double all? OF COURSE. But if it is a matter of priorities... larges and mediums need it far, far more to make them considerably more "worthwhile" beyond just having more gardening slots.
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  2. #12
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    Kytrin's Avatar
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    K'rina Sato
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiami View Post
    Would more for ALL be great? Of course. But we have to remember strains and resource usage. Smalls, by and large, can be decorated fairly easily with the current item limit, I have one that is PLASTERED with small items everywhere. Mediums on the other hand can be a stretch already and fine touches are nearly impossible to do except maybe here and there with specific designs. Large houses though? I still have to see a mansion that wasn't either by design left with HUGE empty spaces, or had easily half the space walled off to make the decorated space look like anything but an empty loft.

    So smalls aren't in a bad place right now, while large are still in a VERY bad place, and mediums in a "meh" place (as mentioned in my own post about the same topic recently).

    Just look at the differences in available space between small, medium and large and you can see how almost ridiculous it is to give mediums only 100 items more, large 200 more, while they have MULTIPlES of space compared to a small with 200 items max.

    I think in the end it comes down to priorities -- there are fewer people with mediums and larges, but they still suffer considerable problems, which makes getting a medium or large feel easily like a dream that then falls flat on its face once you get to set up your new "home". Considering this overall resource hogging might be less (?) by increasing their slots due to lower numbers, yet it would also impact fewer people. Increasing the amount for all, apartments and smalls included, would be a massive strain on the resources... and we have to ask how many owners of smalls and apartments would actually really benefit in any significant way from it. I honestly can't answer that question for sure, and I doubt anyone can.

    Personally though I think that in terms of priority bandaging a hemorrhaging wound (nearly ALL larges remaining 50-75% empty and without any finishing touches, and mediums are often also left without finishing touches or worse) takes precedent over one that is just occasionally twitching a bit (some specific designs for smalls here and there could do with a bit more items).

    So if possible double all? OF COURSE. But if it is a matter of priorities... larges and mediums need it far, far more to make them considerably more "worthwhile" beyond just having more gardening slots.
    I back this logic 100%. I've managed to spread things out over my medium to a comfortable degree so the place looks lived in and there aren't any obvious bare spots, but there's still things I'd like to add and things I'd like to do that I just can't.
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  3. #13
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    Farina Akira
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    Well I just posted some time ago a thread here, where I asked for your opinion about my Mansion. Because I considered to actually reloacte to a small house. (My FC owned a Mansion but I have only 3 active member (me included) in it anymore).

    In the end I decided to keep the Mansion and try redecorating again.... but now I actually did relocate because even if I had 1000 items for a Mansion, it is simply too big. It's mostly only me in the house anyway and I am a Lala and I always felt so small.. now I am extremely happy with the small one and (I hope) made someone else happy with the free Mansion then.

    My personal house is a medium where I closed off like over the half of my basement to make it look lived in. I think SE would already help us if we 1. could dye wallpapers (or at least the white one) and 2. if we could remove those stupid wall-pillars....

    But yeah I could EASILY decorate a Mansion with 800+ items, as well. Still I think I prefer a small home. (for my purposes)
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  4. #14
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    Kytrin's Avatar
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    K'rina Sato
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    An FC mate hired me to decorate his mansion for him a while back. He wanted an oriental style Inn and bar for rp reasons and MAN that was hard to do with 400 slots! There was so much I wanted to put in that I simply could not. I mean, we got something he liked in the end, and I managed to make it not look too empty, buuuuut there's still a few long stretches of unbroken wall.
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  5. #15
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    not_ya_wify's Avatar
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    Tyria Xepheles
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyanna_Elingval View Post
    I don't think you need 800 slots for a mansion. If I had just 500 I would probably be fine, 600 would let me do the special projects. But I don't think I would ever make use of 800.

    I remember I used the brick wall decoration to make my kitchen, took dozens of the items. Then I wanted to make a deck around the oriental tub in my basement, but I didn't have enough items left to place all the items to make it and the stairs. So I had to choose one. If I had even 100 more slots I could have done both.
    I'm an in-game interior designer. I make themed houses that require a lot of slots to create unique furniture pieces. There is a community of players who see the housing feature as an art form and for us, 800 items would still be hard to work with. To get the same item to space ratio as in an apartment, we would need 1600 slots in a mansion. This only sounds like a lot because we are currently forced to work with only 400. I'm sure if we had 1600 our designs would become so elaborate that we'd even hit that ceiling.

    You may be fine with 500 items but that doesn't mean that's really enough for those hard-core designers. Technically, if I used the furniture as intended, I could easily fill a mansion with 50 items but that's quite boring and restrictive to creativity
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  6. #16
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    Calista Fallon
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    Wild Star had the best housing in the MMO universe, bar none. Too bad their dungeons were for the elite gaming set and not the average player or they'd still be an up and growing community.
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  7. #17
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    Item slots in housing were doubled for Stormblood, so it's not unheard of. I'm still hopeful Shadowbringers will finally make it possible to decorate the other half of my large FC house.
    It's possible since we are adding more data centers Though I would expect them to add wards over increase item slots.
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  8. #18
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    Ohlala Chica
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    with the server split cutting the PFs in half, trippling the waiting in PFs, making light farming in Pyros near impossible (at least on EU servers)

    really ATLEAST EXPECT MORE HOUSING DISTRICTS when Shadowbringer launched!!!

    ok SE?
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