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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Can we report the Baldesion Arsenal discord group?

    So I just had a friend quit the game because she went into BA and was immediately bombarded with insults from that BA discord group about stealing their spot. That on its own is fine, toxic community will be toxic. But they took it a step further and when she died they all agreed not to raise her, even when the fight was over and so she timed out and delevelled.

    That is totally out of order. Someone daring to set foot in new content STEALING their spot in a PUBLIC dungeon?! She must be punished!

    I get that it’s supposed to be hard content and they work hard to try and organise their groups. But new players shouldn’t be harassed just for entering because SE didn’t have the foresight to realise that pre-mades would want to be able to group for it. And this group shouldn’t be acting like they own the place.
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    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Cynehild Westknight
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    You can't report something out of game. Tell your friend to report the people in game for harassment and let the GMs decide what to do about the players.
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    If she was harassed/insulted (in-game obviously) she can file a report for that, you can't file a report on behalf of other people unless you were involved in the situation.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    You can only report them for things they said in game - or well, your friend can.

    So any verbal harrassment that happend, can be reported.
    In the "we wont raise you"-issue you only have a shot at reporting that (and have anything done about it) if they mentioned in game that they're all not going to raise her out of spite. Not raising someone isnt reportable by itself (you have no obligation to raise people) and if you're only guessing that they werent raising her to spite her you're probably right, but without prove (like someone saying "I will not raise her because she stole a portal") you're only speculating and thats never good enough for the GMs.
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    Eriane Elis
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    If this one instance was enough for your friend to leave the game then why would that be? If this happens regularly then perhaps the story is more than what meets the eye. I'm not picking any side but let's say that your friend was in the right and what they did was harassment, then the players could have simply been reported and let a GM decide what to do. I know there are FCs on my server that I genuinely avoid because they are known harassers, one FC in particular doesn't stop sending eRP request to people.

    Tell your friend to stop using random discord channels and stick with their FC's discord. There's an odd rumor that FF14 has a toxic-free community but this is a lie, it's full of toxicity just like anything else that is online. Find a FC that works best and develop a tight-knit connection with said people and everything should be fine. But if the problem should persist no matter where your friend goes, then perhaps it's your friend causing the drama. Like I said, I'm not picking sides, but there's always 3 stories, the person telling the story, the other side of the story, and the truth. I hope everything works out in the end though, one little online scrap shouldn't make this game feel hell, after joining an FC it's been an enjoyable experience for me.
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    Nora Origo
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    Can we report the Baldesion Arsenal discord group?
    no, but they can report the players. easy as that.
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    Tell your friend to report for harassment - the portals are for anyone. Not raising isn’t harassment tho - I wouldn’t sac anyone outside the premade either.

    The mods of the BA discord also do their own policing - if your friend has proof of harassment tell them to share it with the discord mods and they will take care of it. Although if your friend is in the discord “sniping” portals they will be removed for that. The good leaders in the discord organizing groups will tell everyone to not engage with the “sniper” at all, so I’m sorry your friend stepped into a premade that won’t even adhere to the discord rules.
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    She can report the insults and harassment, but not the raising. No one has an obligation to raise anyone.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    A 'raise' in BA is worth about 200k+ gil on my server.

    So, why should a healer waste such an action worth 200k gil?
    Esp. if the fight is over and ppl don't intend to continue, since leveling up after a deleveling takes about 20 minutes.

    A healer in a premade usually brings 2 sacs for the purpose of getting your group through and he will be happy about every logos action he can keep for the next run.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 03-07-2019 at 12:14 AM.

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    Liam Harper
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    Is there more to the story?

    Discord groups tend to have strict rules on no harassment, even if portals are sniped. Was your friend an honest player, who had put the time and effort into researching the raid, brought correct logos and simply wanted to try the new content and do their best? Or did they throw insults and "lol not your portals I can do as I like" at the group, nab a tank/healer spot and die immediately causing the BA team to decide to let them time out in order not to be a liability to 55 other players and jeopardize the run?

    It's not against the rules for a team to refuse to rez someone, it simply falls under majority playstyle preferences.

    If however, the team DID hurl abuse at your friend without reason, then it's definitely reportable. Even if provoked, particularly bad insults or abuse aren't accepted and are reportable. As mentioned above, your friend can only report the players involved, not the discord.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 03-07-2019 at 12:14 AM.

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