ff12= ff14

[Kazhim]

Hello

I just started rabanastre and monastery quest line raid 24

and hmm,
is ff12 in ff14?

I meant there is mention of ivalice, and also ff12 and ff14 share the same kind of bad evil star wars empire under heavy armor and face helmet with big iron horn, and same kind of magitek ship and so on.

Also there is fran who directly act in the story of the quest, (i never liked ff12 btw)

and Fran is not just a random guest for fun, like we got vivi for hilidebear story
(btw i wonder if it worth to continue, cause, i dont feel very hyped by the story, the gag are kinda a remake of the first story that i liked, even did a topic on it that no one care here lol, but seeing the progression, i miss the sherlock holmes guy and this inquisitor replace him very badly, also antagonnist are funny at start, but start to become really heavy joke not really funny. so should i continue? also it is lack it miss something from first tale, dont know)

So is Ivalice is in ff14, meaning ff12 existed in eorzea univers but not anymore?

[Burningskull]

Hello

I just started rabanastre and monastery quest line raid 24

and hmm,
is ff12 in ff14?

I meant there is mention of ivalice, and also ff12 and ff14 share the same kind of bad evil star wars empire under heavy armor and face helmet with big iron horn, and same kind of magitek ship and so on.

Also there is fran who directly act in the story of the quest, (i never liked ff12 btw)

and Fran is not just a random guest for fun, like we got vivi for hilidebear story
(btw i wonder if it worth to continue, cause, i dont feel very hyped by the story, the gag are kinda a remake of the first story that i liked, even did a topic on it that no one care here lol, but seeing the progression, i miss the sherlock holmes guy and this inquisitor replace him very badly, also antagonnist are funny at start, but start to become really heavy joke not really funny. so should i continue? also it is lack it miss something from first tale, dont know)

So is Ivalice is in ff14, meaning ff12 existed in eorzea univers but not anymore?

It's not connecting the games making FFT take place in FF14. They basically took the story of FFT and some stuff from FF12, reworked it, and made it fit the lore of FF14. So the games are not "connected" like say FF13 and FF13-2 are, just highly referenced.

[Lacan]

Basically, Hydaelyn has its own incarnation of those areas. Similar but entirely separate.

[Vidu]

It is important to note that the FFXIV-Ivalice is not the FFXII-Ivalice.
They've been heavly borrowing from FFXII, thats true - but "our" Ivalice has no connection from what you know from FFXII.

Same holds true for most other refrences from other (FF)-games: Even if they're closely resembling the original game, they're never excatly that. What is true in FFXII doesnt has to be the case in FFXIV aswell.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

I kinda would love a license system in online play though lol

[Kazhim]

It is important to note that the FFXIV-Ivalice is not the FFXII-Ivalice.
They've been heavly borrowing from FFXII, thats true - but "our" Ivalice has no connection from what you know from FFXII.

Same holds true for most other refrences from other (FF)-games: Even if they're closely resembling the original game, they're never excatly that. What is true in FFXII doesnt has to be the case in FFXIV aswell.

yes i suppose

but i dont like when they do that, cause it gives confusion, and do a melt of several univers which have no real link together, why fran? why not another caracter.

I mean ok in soul calibur 2 heihachi come from a dimensionnal portal, that give some sens even if it is easy way to give.

But taking entirely a character from another game and put it here, with no real reason, and another story, it is just weird. ok vivi is in hilidbrand story but hilidbrand is like a side dream joke

thx for answer

[SannaR]

If you're speaking of the HW Hildibrand story it's sort of like that because SE wasn't going to do his story for HW but a lot of fans wanted it since it was teased that he was flying in that direction. Also the later part of the HW Hildibrand story gets better and Cyr gets better. If you want the story that has the other detective from the ARR storyline you'll have to go and to the Scholasticade. I want to say you have to talk to the npc in the left wing of the church. If not there then inside the left building at the top of the pillars.

The 24man is kind of a love letter to Tactics and XII without them being connected to 14.

[SannaR]

Fran was brought in to be a tease for the Viera that and she does have a large fan base.

[Kazhim]

Fran was brought in to be a tease for the Viera that and she does have a large fan base.

woo really?

i dont find this character very interesting, beside the 12 was one of the worst ff i did, and i stopped the serial at this moment, and i dont like at all her design, they did so better in the past, i like final fantasy 7 to 10, and if 14 is cool, i dont buy all those stuff about rabbit girl and cat girl, japanese are known for their strange tast in some field of their society.


yeah i m sorry halfnaked rabbit girl are not my kind. (and no dont out me the cultural justification, it is too much used to explain some abused charadesign)
thx

and about the hilibrand, so it get better? for now i remain at the moment where vivi go back with the old ppl to find Kwane.

[Kazrah]

The 24man is kind of a love letter to Tactics and XII without them being connected to 14.

At first, I thought that too (just like with past raids) until I played the 4.5 storyline with the knowledge that where we would go in Shadowbringers is mentioned in the dialogue....

....and one of those places that was brought up just happens to be Dalmasca.

Outside the story, it's paying homage to a past game. Inside the story, the best way to think of it is another part of the realm.