Please remove random purchase timer!

[MaybeOliverB]

The random timer changed things significantly. Buying outside relocation now has the risk of the timer being really long which means sellers can't ensure their buyer will even be able to be online when the house becomes available, compared to the previous system.

Nothing stops players from trading FC houses. It's been that way since 2.2. And since 4.2, nothing stops players with personal houses to sell their house through relocation. Literally nothing has changed for sellers.

I'd be interested in where you get the data to make the assertion that it's negligible, of course that would be covered under looking at the impact of them... you know... what I suggested.

If you think you can challenge these generous numbers, go ahead. You still won't be able to make it look like grandfathered personal houses are remotely common.

Love how you miss the point every single time. Why do you care about grandfathered houses when you don't even need to be grandfathered in order to own more than 1 house? You've been barking at the wrong tree this entire thread. Now you're just all over the place trying to tell me that the actual amount of grandfathered houses doesn't go down.

I know housing way better than you do, just look a few posts up. I can tell you that I own more non grandfathered houses in the Mist than the amount of grandfathered houses left in that specific housing area on my server at this point. The % of players with more than 1 personal houses before 4.2 was already low and let's argue that half of those were intended for resell. Well guess what, these plots have been sold since then. Now you're left with the other half of an already small % of houses that are grandfathered. It's been nearly a year since 4.2. Players have move to different servers, stopped playing, got rid of their extra home because of X reason. Chop that number in half and you end up with a handful of people left with more than 1 personal houses.

There was 2 880 plots per server before 4.2. Let's say a very generous 10% of the houses were owned by players that already had a personal house. So 288 houses. Patch 4.2 increased the amount of plots by 50% and now sits at 4 320. Remove half of the 288 grandfathered plots that were only kept for resell purposes. 144. Remove the other half that have let go of their plots for various other reasons, 72. Barely a full ward... out of the 72 wards available. You're getting pretty close to 1% of houses being owned by grandfathered players.

More houses are auto-demolished every month on Gilgamesh compared to the total amount of grandfathered personal houses. But hey, I don't see you complain about all those people who do absolutely nothing with their house for 45 days. Do you think it's okay to have more than an entire ward in limbo all year long on a populated server?

Actually, the rules are that you can own 1 personal per server and can only buy an FC house if you are not part of an FC that owns housing on any of your other characters.

Similarly, there is an expectation that FCs should have at least four members to buy a house. The hoops you need to jump through to personally own the full 8 FC houses on a single account make it rather clear it's outside the intention of the rules and is ultimately taking advantage of things such as the game not punishing FCs that fall below the minimums

You are clueless. Here are the current requirements for a free company




What you are all overlooking is the temporary changes to purchasing land. Some are still ongoing, some are not. How do I know? I wasn't able to purchase more FC houses on the same account when the new wards were only available to FCs or personal houses reolcation.

Timing wise, when 4.2 went live there was a 2 week window where only FCs could buy new houses(though people with personal houses could still transfer plots). After 2 weeks they opened up new purchases to players again. During those 2 weeks the restrictions in place prevented someone from picking up an extra FC house, after the 2 weeks passed anyone could purchase normally again. On the busier servers those 2 weeks saw a ton of FCs finally get their housing and most(or all) of the plots getting bought up before individuals could make purchases again. On the medium and smaller servers some of those plots have yet to be purchased 11 months later.

It's true that the limitation on FC houses per account was quietly lifted (probably when personal housing could be bought again), and I actually agree that this is a good thing. SE needs to make up their mind about how to deal with alts, and the housing situation has kind of forced their hand but they're still waffling over it, probably because it goes against their original stance.

It was listed as a temporary change. They never said when it was lifted, but you can now buy FC houses on an account where other characters are in an FC that already owns a house.