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    MaybeOliverB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    That pretty much did happen, yes. The one exception is selling to people who already own a home, and so can bypass the timer. But that's a much, much smaller market.

    The one living in a fantasy seems to be you, my friend ~.^
    Much smaller market? You have your first time house owners fight in the goblet to acquire their first plot and the they end up paying an other player to get out of that hell hole all the time. Once again, nothing's changed for sellers. And as I said above, FC house trading as been a thing since 2.2...
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    But without this system, people buy plots and resell at a huge mark up.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    As far as the 4.2 temporary restrictions went, even BALMUNG still had plenty of empty plots when it opeened up for player housing. Sure, I think they were probably all small plots, but myself and several others were able to pick up plots when they opened up to private purchases.

    As far as the system, I wouldn't mind if a new system was added, but I can understand if SE doesn't want people selling plots directly. THey can't 100% kill this because you can still trade/sell fc houses, but not allowing new purchases at least cuts down on that. You can also sell a plot for someone to xfer into, but at least this has the benefit of the old plot being openeed up for someone to buy as a silver lining.

    Yes it's luck based, but honestly, so is getting a plot at all. If they removed the timer, you would have to be lucky to scoop up a house after one gets demolished before someone else swings by. If there was a lottery system you'd have to be lucky to win it, etc.
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    I'm watching people camp the plot next to my FC home and it's a special kind of suffering. And I know for a fact several people are using macros/programs to spam it.

    It's a not good system. Controller/console users don't begin to stand a chance.
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    Yeah. You can't sell to first time buyers, unless the guyer is gullable or willing to take a gamble I suppose.

    You can still sell for transfers. I have a small plot so in theory I could pay someone to abandon a medium plot and move up. Or I could pay someone in a Shirogane plot to abandon and move out of the Goblet. (Though it works out well for me because the Goblet is my favorite housing area anyway.)

    Also, free companies. Someone can still sell a free company with a plot to another person, first time housing or not.

    So while you can't reliably sell plots to first time buyers anymore, cutting down on the customer pool on realms without available plots, house selling isn't gone enitrely.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    I'm curious, why do people not like the Goblet? Is it the layout? The general aesthetic? The interior layout stuff you can't change?

    I guess it works out well for me being my favorite housing area if everyone else hates it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I'm curious, why do people not like the Goblet? Is it the layout? The general aesthetic? The interior layout stuff you can't change?

    I guess it works out well for me being my favorite housing area if everyone else hates it.
    Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.
    I would xfer to Ishgard in a heartbeat if I could.

    I guess it's just a matter of taste then, I just happen to like the canyons and the layout of the Goblet itself with its tunnels and levels etc.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.
    Personally I like the canyon views in Goblet better than the plots by the Brimming Heart. For me, the layout in Goblet is the problem. Most of the houses are staring squarely at other houses and it's usually the backs or sides, not the fronts.

    I like the earth tone aesthetics and I created an autumn forest for outside our FC house that doesn't look all that out of place. I do wish that SE would have used xeriscape design for decoration instead of dumping a bunch of huge ugly swimming pools into the middle of Goblet and thinking that improves the look because it doesn't.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    I like the pool personally, though maybe that's just me. The pool was added because they wanted to give all four housing wards an area to swim in. I think the goblet used to have a shallow little pool area before, but not deep enough to swim, I think that got removed when they revamped it for the new pool area though.

    If the goblet is unpopular though that's good news for me, maybe it'll make it easier to eventually snag a medium plot there than it would be in the other areas. Though if we get Ishgard housing, depending on what they do I may be tempted into that...
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