Pagos Grind has to be adjusted

[Nyxn607]

I think in Pagos, at the very least, make all NM's give bright lights and all dragons give at least gentle on every 30 streak with a higher chance at brights. Also it seems counter intuitive for sub 35 to gain light faster than at max level ... should be the opposite. At max level it should only take a lockout or two to get all the lights for 1 relic.

[Liam_Harper]

I actually disliked Hydatos more than the current Pagos.

In Pagos at least you have an active Fate train and you can actually do something, like killing Dragons. You can also solo farm light effectively if no one's on bunnies. I completely agree the amount of Frosted crystals required is too high though and the rng on light is tedious.

Hydatos you struggle to get a Fate spawn group going, there's no real train and if you want the mount you're better off afk'ing at bunnies and just picking up Fates as they go. When people are in BA, activity drops significantly. Crystal drops are low and you really rely on Ovni and the Support Fate to get anywhere. The instance itself has nothing new from Pyros. Hydatos was extremely dull.

[DamianFatale]

While they are at it they can adjust Icezuzu as well. Getting light in pagos is tedius yes but you could wait a week for that dude to spawn.

I see Louhi multiple times a day.

[Physic]

hydatos is pretty lame, its basically a BA lobby and releveling area. And since BA na is pretty unapproachable, it is, for most players the worst zone.

[Aster_E]

hydatos is pretty lame, its basically a BA lobby and releveling area. And since BA na is pretty unapproachable, it is, for most players the worst zone.

From what I hear--and I'm hoping someone can confirm or debunk this for me with a proper source--it's not just a problem for NA. Basically one or two of Eureka's problems that we've been pointing out since Anemos came out, with possibly a nod to when Heavensward came out in and made instancing into Churning Mists a problem for the Hunt, has culminated the mess with BA.

- We can't select the preferred instance (again, a problem since Heavensward Early Access)
- BA is held inside of Hydatos because Yoshi's team had to double down on Eureka being such self-contained content, as opposed to just the relic weapons
- The "public dungeon" is anything but exploratory or accessible for single players, or worth going into on a whim without upsetting the Frag farmers and possible Ozma clearers
- Kitten herding is hard enough with six to eighteen people (try to run a weekly Map Night with a free company to get an idea what I mean), let alone so many parties of up to 56 people
- There is still no party finding system for WITHIN Eureka.

[Higashikata]

Elemental +2 gear makes killing high level mobs laughable. You can easily get 10 bars in under two hours killing Ammerats with just a few people with elemental bonus gear.

[Laphael]

Elemental +2 gear makes killing high level mobs laughable. You can easily get 10 bars in under two hours killing Ammerats with just a few people with elemental bonus gear.

Getting elemental +2 gear is the problem... there should be another way than BA. That way can take longer but there should be another way. (like savage/tome gear)

[Aster_E]

Elemental +2 gear makes killing high level mobs laughable. You can easily get 10 bars in under two hours killing Ammerats with just a few people with elemental bonus gear.

This does, however, make two unfortunate assumptions:

1) That people just wanting to get their weapons done would be willing to go through the BA experience as we now know it--kitten herding, waiting game, and all--multiple times for Frag Farming just to unlock a relative "easy mode" on content that's less than liked, in general.
2) That people who have made it as far as unlocking, or trying, BA would even want to see or touch Pagos again with anything short of a real life flamethrower.

[TalithaSolarien]

I actually disliked Hydatos more than the current Pagos.

In Pagos at least you have an active Fate train and you can actually do something, like killing Dragons. You can also solo farm light effectively if no one's on bunnies. I completely agree the amount of Frosted crystals required is too high though and the rng on light is tedious.

Hydatos you struggle to get a Fate spawn group going, there's no real train and if you want the mount you're better off afk'ing at bunnies and just picking up Fates as they go. When people are in BA, activity drops significantly. Crystal drops are low and you really rely on Ovni and the Support Fate to get anywhere. The instance itself has nothing new from Pyros. Hydatos was extremely dull.

I've only been in Hydatos for one day and that's not what I saw. There were enough FATE spawning groups around and the design was very refreshing after the hellhole called Pyros ...

[Deceptus]

I actually disliked Hydatos more than the current Pagos.

Hydatos you struggle to get a Fate spawn group going, there's no real train and if you want the mount you're better off afk'ing at bunnies and just picking up Fates as they go. When people are in BA, activity drops significantly. Crystal drops are low and you really rely on Ovni and the Support Fate to get anywhere. The instance itself has nothing new from Pyros. Hydatos was extremely dull.

That's because Hydatos is only 10 levels and 10 NM's and they take forever to spawn.

Seems like a lot of doing nothing.