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  1. #21
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    Didn't Yoshi say they were going to continue to nerf it? I was expecting a nerf in one of the last patches... surprised we didn't get one. It really does need it.
    He said something about nerfing Pagos in 4.5 launch (which happened) and then maybe progressively along 4.5.
    I'm thinking about something similar to what happened to Anima weapons in late 3.5 (3.57 in mid April 2017, two months before Stormblood). So I guess, we'll get an overall nerf to relic obtention (lowering the amount of mats needed for instance)
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  2. #22
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 80
    While we're at it.. please allow players to use logos actions in Anemos and Pagos
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  3. #23
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Yea I wanted to do another relic buttttt that light grind in Pagos is unbearable lol I literally went from 0 crystals to 500 wayyyy before I even had enough light for the second step...while you’re leveling it’s no biggie because your done by time you’re 35 but at max level it’s soooo freaking slow
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  4. #24
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Is Pagos still that bad?

    I remember I finished my Pagos relic, I kid you not, the night before its first nerf. I stayed up late and managed to finish my light grind a little bit before the servers went down and then the next day I was told it was nerfed. Made me wish I'd waited a couple more weeks to dive into that.

    Pagos was really the only zone of Eureka I hated. Some of it's been addressed now. The NW and NE Aetherytes unlocking at 30 and 32 was ludicrous, but they thankfully nerfed these to appropriate levels...several patches later. I hear the light grind is very nerfed but as I said above I finished it before the first nerf to it so IDK how big of an impact it made. Then you have things like the sleeping dragons you have to tiptoe past all around the zone....the central ravine used to be a nightmare though with the aetheryte level nerfs I suppose it's not as much of an issue anymore, but the zone was just an all around pain.

    Pyros was a much more pleasant experience than Pagos, and Hydatos was ironically the easiest of the four zones I think. Even Anemos had more 'choke points' that I recall in the map that could make traversal through specific areas a pain but Hydatos was mercifully open. I'm sure BA is brutally difficult and all but Hydatos was surprisingly forgiving.
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  5. #25
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    Una Leonheart
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 66
    That also, Example Skoll Claw. It is close to impossible to get those because of the requirement of weather and then need to get lucky over 144 person. This so damn frustrating. The Cassie earing is another example. Why put such a nice item if only 5 % of the community will ever be able to get it. At that point remove it. In Hydatos I don't event see yet any of the Item and anyway the spawn rate for the left side of the map is low that I Will never bother. You can buy those item in MB, but honestly who will 20 million for a Skoll claw when in 4 month it will be no longer usefull.
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  6. #26
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    Una Leonheart
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Light frequency and gain need to be increased, or reduce the amount of frosted protean crystals required. It takes a really long time as is in order to get one weapon done, compared to the other steps where it takes almost next to no time to get that step done.
    Exactly! Right now the current content is Hydatos not Pagos. Why I would like to pas 10h + just to get in hydatos for the final. Right now the only thing we have until next expact is Eureka, SE please consider make it fun at least
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  7. #27
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Pagos felt bad the first time (because it was), but the last relic I did took me ~2 days.

    Spent more time than that farming light in pyros to make its hydatos relic usable. Because that's a thing they decided to do.
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  8. #28
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    Aryl Ritz
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I agree. it is still currently much easier to gather pagos crystals and louhi ice. so it would be nice to see that balanced out a bit, instead of having enough crystals and ice for like 4 weapons and the light is dragging itself behind.


    personally I would like you to be able to trade pagos/pyros crystals for their respected light forged crystals, along with zuzu drops able to trade for light as well
    (5)
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    Is moonlight without dark"

  9. #29
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    OMG yes I have a stack and a third of pagos crystals which would be fine if light gathering didn't go at a snail's pace. It would also be nice if when you turn in your light it didn't deplete the bar.
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  10. #30
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    Hypnotic Noodle
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 83
    I would love to get 5 relics in total (Brd, Ast, Whm, Smn, and Nin) and possibly more. But the pagos light grind has made me change to only completing 1 relic for now (brd). It doesn't take to horribly long, but it is so tedious farming light. You either have to hope you get a good NM train going where you get lucky with gentle < Bright lights, or hope to get in on a forge party that doesn't dissolve after 30 mins.

    I think it took me close to 10 lock outs to get enough light for my first relic from pagos. In my opinion it should only take 3-4 lockouts total for 1 relic light grind.
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