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  1. #21
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Yeah, Baldesion Arsenal was a really terrible idea.

    I'm not saying that the current servers for Discord are bad, but as a new person running it I am definitely feeling the ostracized language of being new and not good enough by several of the members. I've received some relatively negative feedback on not understanding how 50 separate bot-controlled Discord channels work. I kindly ask a question for sake of being respectful and was reprimanded by a player. We're held to third party programs where a group of community leaders have the responsibility of developing overly complicated Discord bots and processes just to be able to smoothly and effectively finish BA.

    You can't even reach out to the leaders without feeling like you're trash. And it's not their fault, they're getting 100 separate questions and even writing in their bios not to ask them questions. How is this fair to them for helping?

    This can't be fair to the Discord folks, and it can't be fair to the community.

    And don't fool yourself, BA is not public content any more. This isn't to the fault of the Discords, it's the fault of Square-Enix.

    BA should be an instanced zone independent from Hydatos.

    You should be allowed to use the duty finder in-game to group with parties.

    You should be allowed to play with your friends (another issue that Discord can't support)

    You should not be required to wait 2-3 days before you can queue up at a very specific time organized by group leaders.

    You should not have to sacrifice your own schedule just to be able to try Proto-Ozma.

    If you want to make organizing this like the wedding ceremony system, fine, do that. But don't leave it to people to do what a computer should be doing. And don't leave unpaid customer service to answer all the questions.
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  2. #22
    Player
    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Character
    Ohlala Chica
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    BA (entry & grouping) design is total crap, .. the emergency fate in Diadem grouping was better lol..
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  3. #23
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Apr 2011
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    Character
    Last Hero
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    So, I've done this quite a bit now and only lately have had a bad experience with a sniper\troll over on Crystal. The design makes it so that it's a public dungeon, but then does nothing to force players who enter to actually work together and this single person will not join our parties (even though he's been invited), will slot platebearer and wears no elemental gear. He's fishing for a clear off the hard work our discord is doing to get people through the content. That's not a fault on him specifically (aside from his absolute trash personality), but a failure of SE's design.

    I like that it's a cross-server experience because it seems that the greater majority of players who liked XI have come together once again. It's complicated and it's like herding cats sometimes but there's a place for everyone.

    But entering is a nightmare, and it takes much too much time. SE's vision of players randomly joining a dungeon might have worked if they hadn't also decided to make it the absolute most unforgiving content to date. I'm not saying they should dumb down the content, but we definitely shouldn't have to fight the servers just to get our people in the same instance and then fight other random players who don't even want to contribute just to do it.

    As much as I love the concept, and the people I've met while pursuing my own clear, the system is absolute and utter trash and it's clear not one of these designers actually played any XI content, at all, ever.
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    Last edited by Souljacker; 06-17-2019 at 03:06 AM.

  4. #24
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess Whiskers
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    So, I've done this quite a bit now and only lately have had a bad experience with a sniper\troll over on Crystal. The design makes it so that it's a public dungeon, but then does nothing to force players who enter to actually work together and this single person will not join our parties (even though he's been invited), will slot platebearer and wears no elemental gear. He's fishing for a clear off the hard work our discord is doing to get people through the content. That's not a fault on him specifically (aside from his absolute trash personality), but a failure of SE's design.

    I like that it's a cross-server experience because it seems that the greater majority of players who liked XI have come together once again. It's complicated and it's like herding cats sometimes but there's a place for everyone.

    But entering is a nightmare, and it takes much too much time. SE's vision of players randomly joining a dungeon might have worked if they hadn't also decided to make it the absolute most unforgiving content to date. I'm not saying they should dumb down the content, but we definitely shouldn't have to fight the servers just to get our people in the same instance and then fight other random players who don't even want to contribute just to do it.

    As much as I love the concept, and the people I've met while pursuing my own clear, the system is absolute and utter trash and it's clear not one of these designers actually played any XI content, at all, ever.
    In what universe is anything in Eureka (including BA) "the absolute most unforgiving content to date"? lmao
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  5. #25
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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Lumsa Lomsa
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    Character
    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    Our community is deathly afraid of failure. So the idea of failing in BA and wasting all that time is something they fight against religiously.
    When I have to grind for hours to get the materials to try and get two rare and borderline essential abilities in one action window (with failure chance) you'd better bet your butt it's not worth my time.
    The price of failure is hours of grinding or letting the market board drain me a little more.

    What about failing in Savage?
    Fail > learn > respawn > try again.
    But the prep for the BA is BS.
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