Give the possible Eureka 5.X its own weapon, and separate Relic from it

[Kalise]

Eureka doesn't have to have the relic. Neither though, do you.

How about this, we get the relic for Eureka 2, and you get the consolation prize weapon you're trying to palm off on us?

Or, instead of trying to piss off a particular playerbase we go back to earlier in the thread and entertain the idea of having multiple ways to work on the Relic.

That way Eureka players can still work towards it without it being the sole way to work on it.

With Eureka having its own "Consolation prize" unique to it in addition.

Or is it too upsetting to allow other people access to your favourite toys without having a tantrum that after being catered for by having the Relic locked behind your content and your content only that other people might still want to have their Relic from content they enjoy?

The Relic has been a focus of my gameplay throughout 2.0 and 3.0. The only reason it hasn't been my focus in 4.0 is because it's stuck behind content I abhor. Why? So people who like this niche content of Eureka get a shiny they can feel good about, at the expense of everyone who previously liked collecting Relics through the means at which they collected them previously.

Logically, it should go back to 2.0/3.0 ways and have Eureka stand on its own merits.

However, that's not particularly inclusive. So why not have multiple ways to farm towards a Relic. Or at the very least, have the Relic require multiple types of content so that everyone ends up having a stage of the relic in content they enjoy (At the cost of having some stages that they might not enjoy).

You know, thinking about others instead of crying about how you NEED to have the Relic from your favourite content and wouldn't be happy with anything else by calling it a "Consolation Prize"?

[LaylaTsarra]

You know, thinking about others instead of crying about how you NEED to have the Relic from your favourite content and wouldn't be happy with anything else by calling it a "Consolation Prize"?

You're the one who is doing the crying it appears. It's relic content and the progression designed for 4.0 by the development team. Sorry it's not something YOU like but seriously they aren't going to change it NOW to suit your fancy.

This forum did nothing but complain about having to run old content for the last relic progression in 3.0 and wanted something new. The Development Team gave them something new and please lets NOT GO BACK to the same old boring forumula of running old content until blue in the face.

And let me add if they design a similar progression in 5.0 it won't be for a consolation prize weapon but for relic. Asking for different progression options/methods is one thing, asking for a separate weapon is simply not going to happen.

[Nariel]

You're the one who is doing the crying it appears. It's relic content and the progression designed for 4.0 by the development team. Sorry it's not something YOU like but seriously they aren't going to change it NOW to suit your fancy.

Why the relics isn't required to progress Eureka then ? Like at all. You don't need it to finish an area, don't need it to unlock the next area, Krile don't mention the relic weapon once, Eureka itself (the primal) don't provide anything, be it a line of dialogue or a component for the weapon. The only links between the relic weapon and Eureka are component without a speck of lore behind them and "Eureka is a primal that give weapon so the weapon he never interact with is tied to him".

But hey if you continue to stretch it enough you might find out Eureka is actualy related to Hildibrand.

[LaylaTsarra]

But hey if you continue to stretch it enough you might find out Eureka is actualy related to Hildibrand.

Talk to the development team. They are the ones who designed the content around relic and I think they know more about their game than you do.. It's fine you don't have to like it. You can all stretch the facts that this isn't really a relic and the content isn't relic related and that relic was thrown in as an after thought to make people play the content.

[Nariel]

Talk to the development team. They are the ones who designed the content. It's fine you don't have to like it. You can all stretch the facts that this isn't really a relic and the content isn't relic related.

Isn't it the whole point of a forum and the reason some people says they want the relic out or have a second option that didn't imply Eureka ? You know, using the forum to add their opinion in the hope staff might take account of it...

Its is a relic, a very badly implemented one, she is sure tied to eureka its an arguably bad decision and a badly done too. But if Eureka was created around the said relic, it sure not show it well since you have no proof of it either.

[LaylaTsarra]

IIts is a relic, a very badly implemented one, she is sure tied to eureka its an arguably bad decision and a badly done too.

You're entitled to your opinion I certainly don't agree. I think it was awesome. And I'm expressing my opinion too which is my right.

[Nariel]

You're entitled to your opinion I certainly don't agree. I think it was awesome. And I'm expressing my opinion too which is my right.

And you dodge the real point with the "opinion are like ass crack every one get one" and don't bring any argument for your claim about how Eureka was created around the relic. But it have nothing to do with the next Relic OP sugest being not tied to the next Eurekrap 5.0 to begin with so whatever. Damn, he even suggest you have your own toy totaly related to it...

[Jandor]

Why the relics isn't required to progress Eureka then ? Like at all.

Story and lore are quite important to FFXIV, so where possible the devs like to provide an easy option for players who are only interested in the story.

And you dodge the real point with the "opinion are like ass crack every one get one" and don't bring any argument for your claim about how Eureka was created around the relic. But it have nothing to do with the next Relic OP sugest being not tied to the next Eurekrap 5.0 to begin with so whatever. Damn, he even suggest you have your own toy totaly related to it...

The claim that the relic was thrown in Eureka at the last minute is the one that needs proof. You spend nearly all your time in there grinding crystals, light and specific mobs in order to build it.
Everything apart from the 10 minutes or so you spend on Kriles thing in each area is related to building and powering up your relic weapon(s.)

It feels more like she was thrown in at the last minute because they needed some excuse plot to justify the whole area hopping relic grind they'd created.

[Nariel]

Story and lore are quite important to FFXIV, so where possible the devs like to provide an easy option for players who are only interested in the story.

Relics had their own story while not being related that much to any content of 2.0 and 3.0. Eureka weapon have no lore at all or you have some to provide ? Because last time I checked it a weapon upgraded with junk we found around here, nothing comparable to a zodiac brave weapon or a living weapon having her own soul.

[Jandor]

Relics had their own story while not being related that much to any content of 2.0 and 3.0. Eureka weapon have no lore at all or you have some to provide ? Because last time I checked it a weapon upgraded with junk we found around here, nothing comparable to a zodiac brave weapon or a living weapon having her own soul.

I have no idea what you're talking about with the zodiac brave and living weapon stuff, because I didn't do those grinds, because they were terrible and I hated them.

You get to experience the entire storyline of Eureka though for a fraction of the grind making a relic involves.

Coil didn't have a story mode, Alex and Omega do.
Previous relics didn't have an easy story mode, Eureka does.

The trend is obvious, where they can, they have added a separate story-line mode that requires a fraction of effort. That you can progress through the story without the relic isn't proof that the relic was put in Eureka at the last moment in order to get people running it.
As I said previously, it feels far more likely that Kriles paper thin excuse plot was what was thrown in at the last moment, so that this area hopping relic grind we go on has at least some lore behind it.