Give the possible Eureka 5.X its own weapon, and separate Relic from it

[LaylaTsarra]

Considering you can go through the entirety of Eureka without upgrading the weapon a single time or what have you? It's so obvious that they took a Diadem design, realized that in and of itself wasn't enough going by actual Diadem numbers, and then put there the biggest carrot they could find.

It'll make the place nigh unplayable once it dies down and people are basically alone in there.

Personally I enjoyed and am continuing to enjoy Eureka. I'm really happy with the content and should have my 4th weapon in a day or two. I'm not alone I'm sure but be that as it may people wanted more than running boring old content ad nauseum and they designed this content around relic and I'm thankful they did. The didn't add the relic to Diadem they added it to Eureka and relic wasn't added as a stick it was incorporated as a part of the design for obtaining it that was new.

Relative to whether or not it'll be playable in 5.0 I suspect it will be. They'll nerf it so it can be solo'd or played with very few people in zone in my view just like they nerfed the old relics into oblivion making them super easy to get.

Haters love to slap the Diadem label on the content but it's not Diadem.

[BillyKaplan]

The didn't add the relic to Diadem they added it to Eureka.

No, Diadem had those pink weapons. And when that wasn't enough they learned and put the relic in Eureka.
And if they designed this around the relic, I ask again - why can I go through the entire place without upgrading my weapon the once? Why can I clear, at the very least, Pagos to Hydatos without even touching my weapon?
Maybe because Eureka wasn't made for the relic hm.

running boring old content ad nauseum

People who spammed A1S until they threw up mini puddles is their own choice and fault. I got a lot of light just farming roulettes, including Mentor, and switching to the weapon whenever applicable. The older light farms you could basically do by playing the game. Eureka is mutually exclusive from anything else by virtue of being instanced.

[LaylaTsarra]

No, Eureka had those pink weapons. And when that wasn't enough they learned and put the relic in Eureka.
And if they designed this around the relic, I ask again - why can I go through the entire place without upgrading my weapon the once? Why can I clear, at the very least, Pagos to Hydatos without even touching my weapon?
Maybe because Eureka wasn't made for the relic hm.

It was made for relic. You can continue to push your line of what is the case. Have at it. It sure wasn't any different for the 3.0 relics farming tomestones until blue in the face. Didnt' need any upgraded weapons for any of it but you sure got to run the same old content you've run before over and over.

[Jandor]

No, Eureka had those pink weapons. And when that wasn't enough they learned and put the relic in Eureka.
And if they designed this around the relic, I ask again - why can I go through the entire place without upgrading my weapon the once? Why can I clear, at the very least, Pagos to Hydatos without even touching my weapon?
Maybe because Eureka wasn't made for the relic hm.

What exactly was it made for then?

You spend the overwhelming majority of your time in all the zones grinding stuff to make relics, what was going to be the point of all that?

[BillyKaplan]

What exactly was it made for then?

You might as well ask what Diadem was made for, too. Because you do roughly what you do in Eureka there, but you don't have a relic to grind for. Got gathering, tho, which is nice.