Give the possible Eureka 5.X its own weapon, and separate Relic from it

[Youkulm]

No one would do Eureka for a piece of junk weapon that's not even higher level than the current Ex primal. Imagine coming out of four stages of Eureka with something less than max ilvl.

The way some people talk it up like sliced bread, im sure they would if still had the same kind of rewards it has now. ( Mounts, Glamour, Hair, Furniture )

There is no reason we can't have more horizontal progression and choices. You don't even need to do the weapon to complete Eureka ( and I know people who have done just that ). The weapon has no story attached at all in Eureka and isn't even a requirment ). It is purely an afterthought because they needed to toss the relic into something.

So again. There is no reason there can't be a good weapon in raid, a good tome weapon, a good relic weapon, and a good eureka weapon. Not everything needs to be BiS. People just want another option to progress their character. No one should be against this thread or having /more/ content ( I understand believing it to be implausible but thats it ). I don't understand the people aruging against this. OP isn't demanding they delete eureka. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Reynhart]

It is purely an afterthought because they needed to toss the relic into something.

Come on, this, again ?

There is no reason we can't have more horizontal progression and choices.

There's no horizontal progression in this game, and adding another weapon would not be enough to change that as long as content is the same.

There is no reason there can't be a good weapon in raid, a good tome weapon, a good relic weapon, and a good eureka weapon.

Yes, the reason is that having several weapons based on the same concept means that one will be useless. And you forgot the Primal weapon.
On the other hand, if they do that, can you give me a reason why they shouldn't offer more option for just every other high level weapon ? Primal, Raid, Craft, etc...

No one should be against this thread or having /more/ content ( I understand believing it to be implausible but thats it ).

Well, since you literally ask for a weapon that reuses old content, you're not advocating for more content.

[Youkulm]

Well, since you literally ask for a weapon that reuses old content, you're not advocating for more content.

Then you shouldn't be against it

[Kalise]

No one would do Eureka for a piece of junk weapon that's not even higher level than the current Ex primal. Imagine coming out of four stages of Eureka with something less than max ilvl.

You know... Except for people who are claiming that they like Eureka and prefer it over farming Primals/Tomestones/Raids?

Eureka can easily give a unique set of max item level gear. That starts off as your crummy max level quest stuff, but then upgrades to equal to current tier stuff with each stage of Eureka. Just farmed in an alternate way (I.e. FATE Trains instead of Dungeon/Raid Farms)

This could include, ALL item slots. Weapon, Armour, Accessories (Including 2! Rings wow! OP OP!)

Potentially with having max level content like BA even allowing for upgrades to Savage ilevel gear (Though, only if BA was made less toxic...)

That way, it would truly be a place for people who like the content having a way to farm out full sets of gear doing what they prefer to farm. Potentially even having more actually tangible benefits from using said gear within Eureka content.

Unless of course, no-one actually likes Eureka or its content and only cares about it because shiny Relic is the reward >.>

[Youkulm]

You know... Except for people who are claiming that they like Eureka and prefer it over farming Primals/Tomestones/Raids?

So correct Kalise!

I know I go into eureka just to cap myself! Its so much easier.

But like OP has stated that doesn't mean we don't miss the 2.0/3.0 weapon quest lines and story. I understand its not for everyone but a lot of us want something similar back.

Eureka has so many AMAZING rewards and no one even wants to take away them away. We just want another option outside Eureka.

[Kurando]

How do we know the Eureka stages will be replicated again in 5.0? SE may opt to go back to some previous methods or create new ones, unless they have stated otherwise.

[Jandor]

How do we know the Eureka stages will be replicated again in 5.0? SE may opt to go back to some previous methods or create new ones, unless they have stated otherwise.

They've stated they're doing 'Eureka-like' content in 5.0, which could mean almost anything to be honest.

[Kurando]

They've stated they're doing 'Eureka-like' content in 5.0. Which could mean almost anything to be honest.

Well that could be concerning. Did they say it would be linked to the new relic or no? Either we get optional Eureka content which could die as quick as Diadem or they lock relic phases in it again, not sure which is the better choice honestly...

[Jandor]

Well that could be concerning. Did they say it would be linked to the new relic or no?

They didn't specify IIRC, although it seems a fairly safe bet it will be.

Either we get optional Eureka content which could die as quick as Diadem or they lock relic phases in it again, not sure which is the better choice honestly...

Well, the consensus seems to be (even among people that still don't like it) that Eureka has gotten better over time. Assuming they take what they learned in to 5.0 then it should be at least decent content.

[Alucard135]

How do we know the Eureka stages will be replicated again in 5.0? SE may opt to go back to some previous methods or create new ones, unless they have stated otherwise.

This is part of what Yoshi P said yesterday in the BA thread.

As a result, there may be situations like Hydatos, where feedback diverges greatly depending on region, and issues arise that are beyond our anticipation. But we’ll learn from this and strive to continue delivering new ways to play.
With the 5.x series of patches, we’ll be trying something new again, but in the meantime, we’ll continue making adjustments not only to Hydatos, but to Eureka at large. Thank you for continued support.

I'll just be sad if eureka does completely die with 5.0. If it is dead as diadem will it become impossible to make the relic weapon? :v That's the risk of structuring content like this. I don't know if they could even adjust it to the point where people could solo it.

They do have several things they can do that will make it soloable, just be removing level and ilvl syncing there (we’re synced to 300 while our gears now are 400). Now if the new content in 5.0 builds on the same elemental level as Eureka, then even Hydatos could be solo’ed (not BA though lol).

But on topic, I’m all for having different weapons for both styles (I don’t think SE would bother doing the same for both). The old ARR/HW style didn’t really require much resources except in designing the weapons and the story. And in this case, no one will say they lost a content due to the other etc. I just hope we don’t hear an outcry when one weapon has better stats than the other.