What is a "bad player" to you?

[cicatriz313]

My point was your claim that even sync they were meant to be bulldozed.This is simply not true.This was the not the original design.
Devs not forseeing how it would work at higher levels is what has led to this.
Im not defending the guy you quoted just stating that your anology of them being meant to be bulldozed is incorrect and it can still pack a punch to newer players in a party who arent over geared or lvl synced regardless on The person you questioned's personal stats.

If you're telling me that groups are still having trouble with titan hard mode NOW, I mean come on. I honestly don't know why you responded to nitpick about a point I made that was not really the point of my post, but yes even synced, Titan HM and Ravana HM are super super easy these days. I mean MAYBE if you have 8 friends all in level 50/60 grey gear would there be a problem, but not in DF most of the time.

Edit: Also yes, I bring up healers not DPSing, but yes other roles can be bad if they play at a minimum as well. AKA tanks only using threat combos, or DPS not using AOE.

[Metalwrath]

If you're telling me that groups are still having trouble with titan hard mode NOW, I mean come on. I honestly don't know why you responded to nitpick about a point I made that was not really the point of my post, but yes even synced, Titan HM and Ravana HM are super super easy these days. I mean MAYBE if you have 8 friends all in level 50/60 grey gear would there be a problem, but not in DF most of the time.

Edit: Also yes, I bring up healers not DPSing, but yes other roles can be bad if they play at a minimum as well. AKA tanks only using threat combos, or DPS not using AOE.

I am telling you teams can struggle if they arent at the high ilvl cap,Im not trying to nitpick.Just dont assume all teams these days are going to be full of lvl synced or maximum cap ilvl 50 gear.We've seen a lot of new players migrate to the game the last few months and a lot of them deffintly are not fully kitted out in max gear.

[cicatriz313]

I am telling you teams can struggle if they arent at the high ilvl cap,Im not trying to nitpick.Just dont assume all teams these days are going to be full of lvl synced or maximum cap ilvl 50 gear.We've seen a lot of new players migrate to the game the last few months and a lot of them deffintly are not fully kitted out in max gear.

At this point in the game's lifecycle, people will almost always have a majority of ilevel synced players in a group for old content. Even if not, players are given like 110? gear at level 50 while doing the msq. I imagine the same (being given gear appropriate for 60) is true for level 60 but I have no idea. So sure, there might be a few green leaves in there, but overall they will have people overgeared who can bumrush the fights. Honestly I'm only responding to you at this point because you're still arguing the same points even though it's completely irrelevant to the topic.