What is a "bad player" to you?

[HyoMinPark]

So plenty of people responded me and I'd like to respond to each of them but I have to do a blanket statement so I don't end up having too long of a post.

My specific example of friends don't play the game to be amazing or decent. They play every once in a while and aren't committed to the game like the rest of us or even someone that's even with them. There's a line that's hard for all of us to come to an agreement to between a casual player and a bad player. Personally, my friends are both. They play when they want, but if another more enticing option comes along (ie: watch a movie with friends, play an even more casual game, etc.). They want to keep Final Fantasy XIV in their computers/PS4. They don't want it in their Youtube/Google search bars, they don't want it on their smart phones, etc. On a Saturday, they'll get up early, go hiking, have lunch with the boys, catch a late movie, then log-in at the end of the day on their PC and sometimes they'll pick FFXIV, if no one wants to play Apex Legends or Madden or Fortnite or etc.

Someone pointed out that I'm enabling bad behavior, but don't get me wrong. I get frustrated too when DPS single target and tanks die because they don't use their Hallowed Ground or whatever, but I'm honestly not an agent of change. Can I make long, lasting impressions in a dungeon/raid/etc? I don't know. Can I make an immediate impression that might or might not carry that player's new found education over? I don't know. Maybe? You've all told me repeatedly about having respect for the rest of the party, but where does that start and end? Just making sure a healer is DPSing is enough or do I also now have the responsibility of having to train an unknown stranger on what I would consider to be proper dungeon etiquette? There are plenty of off-game resources and I shouldn't have to count as a resource. I shouldn't be any individual stranger's keeper in learning this game.

I wasn’t telling you or your friends that have lives outside of the game that you all are required to teach players (although, if they have questions, if you know the answer, it would be courteous of you to answer them). I was telling you that using the excuse “I have a busy life outside of this game and I play it to relax” to defend lazy play is a poor one to make, and it isn’t an adequate defense for lazy/poor play.

There are plenty of players that don’t play the game to raid or do any sort of bleeding edge content. But that doesn’t mean that they want to deal with lazy party members in their parties. That doesn’t mean that they themselves actively choose to only halfway participate in content, regardless of what it is.

I'm not talking about raiding or primals. This conversation has nothing to do with that. I've specifically talking about the dungeons used to farm tomestones. No one made any mention of end game content. You goof off with your friends on your own, I have no clue what this has to do with the conversation. This is specifically talking about farming tomestone grind dungeons with ilvl requirements so abysmally low and mechanics telegraphed for days and mobs that die in a few seconds for a reason so that anyone can do them.

I'm sorry, but re-read where my entire post starts off before even responding because you've missed the entire point of conversation.

I did read your posts. All of them. I’m saying that, like your friends that have lives, I have a life as well, and I log in to do whatever I want to do just like they do. I wasn’t discussing Savage content versus dungeons; it was just a statement of what I log into the game to do on days that I am free to play. What I’m saying is, I don’t want to deal with players that actively choose to play lazily/poorly because “I’ve had a busy day and just want to relax”, regardless of the type of content involved. And there are plenty of players like myself who don’t want to deal with it.

Please re-read my post before even responding because you missed the entire point of what I was saying.