What is a "bad player" to you?

[JunseiKei]

Just ran into what I'd call bad players:

Queued for Doma Castle as a Paladin and eats food buff. We get to the first boss. Takes 10 minutes to kill the first boss and I was legitimately TP starved.

[12:48 a.m.](Me) So.. you guys know how to play your classes? D: I've never had a dungeon boss take so long to kill.
[12:48 a.m.](Me) Genuinely asking.
[12:49 a.m.](Black Mage) yes i know how
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) reported
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) bullying
[12:49 a.m.](Me) I'm not bullying, but I am asking so I can help as another player.
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) im gonna kill myself

Samurai proceeds to pull the Vanguard and run back to me. I grab the add and just watch what they do. Black Mage proceeds to cast only Fire III and then Blizzard when they are at about 20% MP left. Samurai is not keeping Shifu and Jinpu buffs up; only skill I've seen them put up is Higanbana (no Tenka Goken for adds, no AoE in general for 4+ enemies, and no Midare Setsugekka).

[12:52 a.m.](Me) Okay, well, just watching this last fight, the two DPS could use work. I'm going to dip out under difference of playstyle. You guys enjoy your run. :3

I ate the leaving penalty. I have no problems with teaching players how to fight properly - I did this for a tank I wind up in an expert with years ago. However, even as a mentor, I did not sign up to encourage this kind of mentality the two above showed. I gave them both a chance to ask questions and let them know I knew something was wrong. From other mentor encounters, I've forcibly accepted that if players don't ask for or want help if you offer it, you're often wasting your time.

[Aeloria]

Just ran into what I'd call bad players:

Queued for Doma Castle as a Paladin and eats food buff. We get to the first boss. Takes 10 minutes to kill the first boss and I was legitimately TP starved.

[12:48 a.m.](Me) So.. you guys know how to play your classes? D: I've never had a dungeon boss take so long to kill.
[12:48 a.m.](Me) Genuinely asking.
[12:49 a.m.](Black Mage) yes i know how
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) reported
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) bullying
[12:49 a.m.](Me) I'm not bullying, but I am asking so I can help as another player.
[12:49 a.m.](Samurai) im gonna kill myself

Samurai proceeds to pull the Vanguard and run back to me. I grab the add and just watch what they do. Black Mage proceeds to cast only Fire III and then Blizzard when they are at about 20% MP left. Samurai is not keeping Shifu and Jinpu buffs up; only skill I've seen them put up is Higanbana (no Tenka Goken for adds, no AoE in general for 4+ enemies, and no Midare Setsugekka).

[12:52 a.m.](Me) Okay, well, just watching this last fight, the two DPS could use work. I'm going to dip out under difference of playstyle. You guys enjoy your run. :3

I ate the leaving penalty. I have no problems with teaching players how to fight properly - I did this for a tank I wind up in an expert with years ago. However, even as a mentor, I did not sign up to encourage this kind of mentality the two above showed. I gave them both a chance to ask questions and let them know I knew something was wrong. From other mentor encounters, I've forcibly accepted that if players don't ask for or want help if you offer it, you're often wasting your time.

I had a black mage that wasn't doing any aoe in a SB leveling dungeon except that during bosses they used Thunder IV. I can only assume this is from a lack of reading tool tips. It was so frustrating, trash took so long to go down but there was only so much I could do on my rdm with scatter and enchanted moulinet(sp). They should have melted with that black mage.. I also blame SE for their naming convention on some abilities. People are in my opinion automatically assuming 4 is better than 3.. Seems logical right? Yet on the other hand players should read their tool tips. I guess i could have said something but then what last time I asked a dps to aoe they crapped all over me like i was being a jerk. So I just mostly keep silent and endure my torture. I was on an alt so was trying to clear the dungeon for aether current. yay fun. lol

I'm not the greatest player, god knows ive jacked up mechanics a few times mostly mechanics that the tell is so far on the outside of the arena that i can zoom my camera out enough to see, but holy moly i read my tool tips and try to the best of my ability to use things appropriately, pressing a GCD everytime i can and weaving in ogcd in between.

[Kaedan]

I had a black mage that wasn't doing any aoe in a SB leveling dungeon except that during bosses they used Thunder IV. I can only assume this is from a lack of reading tool tips. It was so frustrating, trash took so long to go down but there was only so much I could do on my rdm with scatter and enchanted moulinet(sp). They should have melted with that black mage.. I also blame SE for their naming convention on some abilities. People are in my opinion automatically assuming 4 is better than 3.. Seems logical right? Yet on the other hand players should read their tool tips. I guess i could have said something but then what last time I asked a dps to aoe they crapped all over me like i was being a jerk. So I just mostly keep silent and endure my torture. I was on an alt so was trying to clear the dungeon for aether current. yay fun. lol

I'm not the greatest player, god knows ive jacked up mechanics a few times mostly mechanics that the tell is so far on the outside of the arena that i can zoom my camera out enough to see, but holy moly i read my tool tips and try to the best of my ability to use things appropriately, pressing a GCD everytime i can and weaving in ogcd in between.

On that note, they should really go with the Japanese versions of spells. Fire, Fira, Firaga, etc. They've had them in English in previous FFs, no reason not to have them in FF14.

[TalithaSolarien]

On that note, they should really go with the Japanese versions of spells. Fire, Fira, Firaga, etc. They've had them in English in previous FFs, no reason not to have them in FF14.

Please do so. They actually are called that way in the German client (as they were in the old FF titles). I really don't like this Fire 1,2,3,4 nonsense.