Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
In my experience, it is always the people who yell elitism and screech the word 'toxic' so often that are terrible players. I just finished my final Tank mount and have done this by doing almost exclusively normal mode SB content (raids). I just expect the basics. But the amount of people who do not even understand the basics of their class, present almost every run. No shirks, no Diversions, terrible DPS, insane amounts of overhealing, there are just so many people in this game, at level 70 and experienced that have such a poor playstyle that it's actually quite sad. For me, a bad player has nothing to do with ridiculous fluff like "being toxic" or "not seeing that this game is for fun". That is a behavioural "issue". A bad player is someone who progressed levels on their class but does not take out the time to hit the striking dummy for a bit, to take 10 minutes to look at a guide video, to not even read tooltips, don't come prepared to raids and generally waste the time of all other people involved. And there are plenty of these people.
I actually agree with this take of what a bad player is. I personally think that it's quite common to mix behavioural issues with one's skill. I've met very nasty players, that would talk others down, they are super narcissistic, but they are very skillful, know the game from A to Z, have all the existing content down. I don't disregard their level of skill because of their attitude. While I wouldn't like to be paired up with these players, it has nothing to do with what a "Bad player" is, imo. As the example I posted earlier, a football player, no matter how cocky he is, if they get wins for their teams, beat goal records and bring trophies home... yeah, they are a good player. If we don't like them as a person, that's a different story.