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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    weekly lockouts save people from themselves and burning through content. if there were no lockouts everything would be done immediately by the hardcore people right away and then they would never come back until next patch. then the game would just be filled with the filthy casual who can't do anything.
    Weekly lockouts do not stop people from burning through content. People frequently burn through all four Savage contents raids on the day of release and that has not changed because of weekly limits. Raid groups tend to go through all the bosses in less than two hours a week. It ensures that half the content can only be run once a week, making it so that there is less to do overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    weekly lockouts save people from themselves and burning through content. if there were no lockouts everything would be done immediately by the hardcore people right away and then they would never come back until next patch. then the game would just be filled with the filthy casual who can't do anything.
    I'd almost buy that if almost everything didn't have some sort of lockout weekly on it. If someone wants to spend all of their time in Savage, let them. Same with other lockouts. You want to do 10 WT books a day? Whatever floats your boat.
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    There is still a lot of weeks until the expansion so they won't want people to collect all of the loot in the game already. There's hardly any new content left to fill the time between now and late June, just some story quests, side quests, seasonal content and xv collaboration left to come. Some time before xpac they typically double tome cap from 450 to 900 and fully unlock raids, that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culex View Post
    I'm here to prepare for the next expansion, there are a ton of jobs classes to work with, hence there is no reason for these meager weekly limits.
    You have several months before the expac is even released, and then when the weekly limits are lifted (some said in March), again you have plenty of time to gear up. There is no reason to rush to get gear for anything and I doubt you'd be using every single job as soon as the expac drops, focus on the select few you want to use then come back to others a bit later, you seem to be panicking over potentially nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanchimont View Post
    Weekly lockouts do not stop people from burning through content. People frequently burn through all four Savage contents raids on the day of release and that has not changed because of weekly limits. Raid groups tend to go through all the bosses in less than two hours a week. It ensures that half the content can only be run once a week, making it so that there is less to do overall.
    how many people get thru all 4 savages day of release? johnny casual sure isn't.

    how many raid groups get thru stuff near release in less than two hours a week? team derp sure isn't. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'd almost buy that if almost everything didn't have some sort of lockout weekly on it. If someone wants to spend all of their time in Savage, let them. Same with other lockouts. You want to do 10 WT books a day? Whatever floats your boat.
    That's not how you maintain an MMO business model though. sounds like a "You" problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'd almost buy that if almost everything didn't have some sort of lockout weekly on it. If someone wants to spend all of their time in Savage, let them. Same with other lockouts. You want to do 10 WT books a day? Whatever floats your boat.

    This. We pay for this game let us have fun. nothing is won from ppl logging 2 hours a week to cap and then do other stuff >_>

    At least let give us lockouts for DPS/Heals/Tanks each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    how many people get thru all 4 savages day of release? johnny casual sure isn't.

    how many raid groups get thru stuff near release in less than two hours a week? team derp sure isn't. lol
    If you want to argue about Johnny casual, Johnny casual never plays Savage at all meaning the weekly limit isn't something that's going to even affect them. In fact, removing caps altogether would help them even more since they don't have to try to login every week to make sure they hit their caps.

    Heck, you could even make it so that Savage drops are like the other raids rather than clear based. They could also join different raid groups rather than be stuck with one. You would even be better off letting them set their own pace so it is okay if they don't hit the cap one week. There are so many ways to make it better than the way it is now.

    There are many raid groups who get through all four Savage raids within the first week and the amount of time it takes them will only get shorter with each week that passes due to having progressively better gear. Eventually, they reach a point in which two hours is more than enough to clear all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanchimont View Post
    If you want to argue about Johnny casual, Johnny casual never plays Savage at all meaning the weekly limit isn't something that's going to even affect them. In fact, removing caps altogether would help them even more since they don't have to try to login every week to make sure they hit their caps.

    Heck, you could even make it so that Savage drops are like the other raids rather than clear based. They could also join different raid groups rather than be stuck with one. You would even be better off letting them set their own pace so it is okay if they don't hit the cap one week. There are so many ways to make it better than the way it is now.

    There are many raid groups who get through all four Savage raids within the first week and the amount of time it takes them will only get shorter with each week that passes due to having progressively better gear. Eventually, they reach a point in which two hours is more than enough to clear all of them.
    and those are the people that just go off to play other games and just raid log. I'm not sorry to see those people not stick around. you just want to be selfish and have all the loots right away.
    the point is - if people get stuff faster - they leave faster. they think they're done and just might not come back at all. pretty certain that's not what the devs want.
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    But its pointless to FORCE em to come "every day" instead of taking healthy breaks.... let them leave and let us gear up on the pace we want and not burn out cause on one week we cap our tome 7x and the next to week we dont even do it once >_>

    At least, let us accumulate the weekly caps till the even patch hits, so you dont miss out. And for gods sake, give us different means to upgrade the right side, i just cant force myself to do stuff for it the 43574537th time as it feels so useless...
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