BA shows that we fail as a Community (big time)

[Reinha]

If content doesn't inspire people to work together then it's the design that has failed. 24 man raids do just fine in getting a big group of total strangers to co-operate and teach each other.

[RitsukoSonoda]

If content doesn't inspire people to work together then it's the design that has failed. 24 man raids do just fine in getting a big group of total strangers to co-operate and teach each other.

24 man raids for the most part only work because they're queueable in duty finder. The primary botch I see on BA is the way they chose to implement entrance with the whole scattered random portals thing. Aside from that it's just a higher chance of getting a random idiot because the player count is higher. However its a risk on any duty even with premades unless you only invite people you know specifically beforehand. I still see instances of titan EX where all but myself and 1 other person get launched off the platform on the first landslide.

[Nihility]

24 man raids for the most part only work because they're queueable in duty finder. The primary botch I see on BA is the way they chose to implement entrance with the whole scattered random portals thing. Aside from that it's just a higher chance of getting a random idiot because the player count is higher. However its a risk on any duty even with premades unless you only invite people you know specifically beforehand. I still see instances of titan EX where all but myself and 1 other person get launched off the platform on the first landslide.

honestly running BA would be a complete joke if it wasn't for the resurrection restriction debuff. Maybe that's how they'll eventually nerf it, just remove that debuff and the average eureka players strategy of clumsily dps while standing in literally every aoe will get you through

[Wizel]

I think they should remove the "no rez" debuff in the instance when you are not on the bosses. Only allow raises from the Logo's action, maybe lower that from 99 uses to like 3 or 5. When the boss is up and the fight starts no raising can happen outside of Rememberance, that way a wipe is still possible on AV and Ozma but not as bad on doing trash and lower bosses. I think that would be a good solution for making it easier but not super easy.

[Kazrah]

If content doesn't inspire people to work together then it's the design that has failed. 24 man raids do just fine in getting a big group of total strangers to co-operate and teach each other.

This is pretty much my view of it. BA hasn't really shown the community failing so much as it simply has limits of cooperative ability that devs either forgot to take into account or are unsure of how to take it into account. Either way, it's the creators of the content--not the consumers--who are at fault for the issues surrounding BA and the lack of consideration toward what few players are willing to drag their way through the four hells of Eureka in order to put up with running it.

[Kazgrel]

It's not a community failure, it's a game design failure with how ridiculous it is to get an organized group into BA.

The community has gone out of the way to try and make accessing BA as smooth as possible. Problem is it's as smooth as a pothole-riddled stretch of highway, and the community can only cover so many of those potholes.

[Vahlnir]

It's not a community failure, it's a game design failure with how ridiculous it is to get an organized group into BA.

The community has gone out of the way to try and make accessing BA as smooth as possible. Problem is it's as smooth as a pothole-riddled stretch of highway, and the community can only cover so many of those potholes.

Yep, pretty much.

[Deceptus]

It's not a community failure, it's a game design failure with how ridiculous it is to get an organized group into BA.

The community has gone out of the way to try and make accessing BA as smooth as possible. Problem is it's as smooth as a pothole-riddled stretch of highway, and the community can only cover so many of those potholes.

The fact that you are almost required to use a third party software in order to play a certain aspect of FFXIV despite doing so is against the ToS and the developers suspending or canceling accounts when you do is telling.

They screwed up royally and now they have to somehow fix this mess up. Or they can pull a Diadem and just forget about it. Wonder what they're going to do?

[Vahlnir]

The fact that you are almost required to use a third party software in order to play a certain aspect of FFXIV despite doing so is against the ToS and the developers suspending or canceling accounts when you do is telling.

They screwed up royally and now they have to somehow fix this mess up. Or they can pull a Diadem and just forget about it. Wonder what they're going to do?

If they were going to pull a Diadem they'd simply turn BA into a bunch of Fates with a random chance of encountering Absolute Virtue, followed by a random chance of getting any reward at all.

[HyoMinPark]

The fact that you are almost required to use a third party software in order to play a certain aspect of FFXIV despite doing so is against the ToS and the developers suspending or canceling accounts when you do is telling.

Are you referring to Discord? Because using Discord while playing FFXIV is not against the ToS. It does not interact with or modify the game or game files in any way.