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  1. #1
    Player
    Stanelis's Avatar
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    People get together in discords with hundred to thousand of players in several country to organize themselves and mitigate the terrible design of how BA can be entered. I don't really see how it shows that we fail as a community. The different discords even go as far as coordinate with each other to avoid stepping on each other feets. Hell, groups even go as far as helping other premades to fill instances so they get an empty instance.

    I've been doing a lot of runs because I m actually leading some runs, and only a few players actually bitch in /shout channel and even less people "sniping" portals. The players are incredibly well behaved considering how terrible the design is, it could have been total war but that's not even the case.
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I'm doing a BA pre-made, and someone got sniped. And the random that entered instant left.
    I hope this kind of behavior is reportable, cause it's clearly detrimental and of not good will.

    We are super nice and polite, we invite to the discord. Yet players keep doing that, just because they can. Is it right? I feel sad for the one that didn't get in, we did strive for 1~2h to get everything together =/.
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I'm doing a BA pre-made, and someone got sniped. And the random that entered instant left.
    I hope this kind of behavior is reportable, cause it's clearly detrimental and of not good will.
    Not reportable unless they said somewhere that they were doing it maliciously.

    Perhaps they were just ignorant of what they were doing and didn't know the ramifications of leaving.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon's Razor
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Not reportable unless they said somewhere that they were doing it maliciously.

    Perhaps they were just ignorant of what they were doing and didn't know the ramifications of leaving.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon's Razor
    There's no thing as ignorance when everyone had to agree to BA's difficulty to unlock it. We did communicate, but he just waited for the red portal and entered anyway.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    We did communicate, but he just waited for the red portal and entered anyway.
    Red portals are fair game for anyone to enter (IIRC). He / she did nothing reportable there.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Red portals are fair game for anyone to enter (IIRC). He / she did nothing reportable there.
    I hope it become reportable in the future then. Cause this is not right.
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    swiss_Momo's Avatar
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    Noel Maimhov
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 90
    nah, the majority of the fault lies with SE, by showing once again how out of touch they are with the (western) player base. It should've been obvious from a mile away that the BA design would lead to a dichotomy between the players (wanting to run it in an organised group because of the stakes vs entry being open to any elvl 60). It's similar how they still haven't done anything about the fact that we don't do hunts they way they intended to.
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    Rockette's Avatar
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    It's similar how they still haven't done anything about the fact that we don't do hunts they way they intended to.
    What is the way they intended?
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    What is the way they intended?
    Not waiting for the entire server to show up.
    Find it, kill it.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Not waiting for the entire server to show up.
    Find it, kill it.
    How dare we form a community and share things. Terrible behaviour.
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