BA elitist groups monopolising primal

[Sylow]

Like, woah, anyone can clear the first three floors of savage joining a random PF in week 1.

People clear the first 3 floors of savage in PUG PF on week 1 because you can pull it an infinite number of times and there's no penalty for failing, you don't have to re-queue for 3 hours just to try once.

I'm sure a PUG could technically do BA, but most of the people doing BA have no interest in going through that. Most random people entering don't get past the first trash pull because they're not used to fighting +6.

BA is time consuming. People just want to make the best use of their time.

[Canadane]

That made no sense, portal are free for all sure but SE cannot force a party to invite someone they do not like. From your saying it sound like a dps that die can force a healer to Sac L for them.

Sacrifice may be asking a bit much.
I'm talking things like refusing to cure or other basic actions in a regular party.

Of course proving intent is never easy.

[Janhyua]

Sacrifice may be asking a bit much.
I'm talking things like refusing to cure or other basic actions in a regular party.

Of course proving intent is never easy.

do you know what is call Cure 2 logogram?

[HyoMinPark]

So is this a case of the game not creating enough instances of BA, which then causes people to fight over instances? Bear in mind I haven't even set foot in Hydatos yet never mind do BA..

There are definitely issues with congestion - however, most groups on Aether don't "fight" over who gets the instance. When arsenal groups queue in, whichever group gets into the instance first with the most players out of their 56 usually gets the instance. The other arsenals respectfully leave and continue trying to queue into an instance that doesn't already have another arsenal group in it.

Last night, I joined a frag run in the NA discord, and there were only 2 instances that were open (1 full - I don't think there was any BA going on in it - and 1 with a group already inside BA attempting an Ozma clear). Even with 2 other arsenal groups attempting to sit in instances and force-spawn a new one, we kept getting the Ozma instance. We finally managed to spawn a new one... but when players left the Ozma BA instance, our new one was locked because now the Ozma instance was no longer full, so our arsenal was missing half its members. We tried for nearly 4 hours to get into a free instance that didn't conflict with any other group to no avail.

[Helliebabe]

I've been with the discord for a long time and they are very welcoming towards new players. People spend hours trying to get in and it's frustrating for everyone constantly getting so close to clearing just to fail because a few people have gotten in for the first time either die instantly or don't have enough elemental gear to kill Ozma. I've joined in on BA with a group of players that were just on the map wanting to enter. Everyone wiped on 1 side before we even had vision of the boss. You really need some form of communication to clear this

I've never seen any arguments in chat besides one troll claiming the Discord is selling clears to others (you can't carry people through this so that's not possible) but everyone is allowed to join the Discord server. I would help everyone clear it if I could but it's something everyone needs to know what they are doing.

[Janhyua]

while us here in Elemental the world between Japanese and english speaking player are constantly clashing with each other 2 side with 6 premade party a total of 12 PT fighting over it, both side does not want to give way and it became a Dog eat Dog festival

[Janhyua]

I have never seen toxic behavior in such a high velocity in my 5 year carrer in this game this is if not the worst design content ever

[Helliebabe]

We have a rule in the Discord, if any other groups are planning to run it we have to leave it for them because they were there first.

[NIGHTWOLF253]

Man these monopolizers are the worst.

[LalaRu]

Why you all are so upset by this behavior?

This is a great opportunity given from SE to us, to get rid of some kind of unwelcome grieving players. Maybe not for ever, but some time and I'm quite sure some of them will care their account enough to avoid do further (too much?) bad things. Make sure you always report to GM the issues.

Take care to write down correctly the player names, I'm sure you don't you want some of them walk away with it because you mispelled its name.