Hydatos Critique

[Barraind]

I can solo spawn west side nm's regularly. But the east side ones, those dont play nice.

[Krojack]

The overall zone is small

Not much else needs to be said. It's small, cramped and just a rectangle. Extremely lazy design. It is beautiful though.

People complained about Pagos being horrible and Pyros to an extent too. SE made one kinda like Anemos and people still complain.

Only one bunny fate / tying important items to said fate

What this results in are large amounts people camping the one bunny fate in the zone reducing the odds that you'll get a carrot. This makes attempting to increase your logograms slots extremely difficult. Some people have 10 flasks, some people have none.

In both Pagos and Pyros no one did the higher level bunny fates. Everyone did just the one. If they had 2 here it would most likely be similar. Also the zone is only 10 levels so it would be pointless to have 2.

Also the fact that the Bunny Fate can be held hostage by people not dismissing their bunny or completing their objective needs to be changed ASAP.

I have yet to experience this.

Low NM spawn

This has happened every single time a Eureka zone has launched and why it wasn't changed is puzzling. This results in driving more people to camp the single bunny fate because there's not much else to do in the zone.

I just got out of a zone that didn't have a single NM spawn in an hours time.

Some NM's not seeming to spawn

I've went entire lockouts with just a handful of NM spawns.

They spawn very easily, about as easy as Anemos. People just aren't trying to spawn them. Every instance I've been in that doesn't have half the people in BA have NMs spawning left and right.

[Reinha]

Hydatos is the best map in Eureka.

- Easy terrain, good teleport points, spread out mobs, good quest locations.
- One bunny FATE only is nice, although it should spawn more bunnies for participants. I have no problems with logos action expansion being tied to bunnies since it's optional.
- NM spawns seem normal to me. I hope the people in BA don't affect the scaling.

[Liam_Harper]

Bunny fates are killing activity, there tends to be 1-2 groups on fate spawn and the best thing for the rest to do is afk at the bunny spot and grab fates then they pop.

I went from 50-60 without getting a single mob grind group and now I'm 60 I can go 5 instances in a row without getting a fate spawn group. People just aren't bothered when afking at bunnies and leaving the spawning to someone else hits 2 birds with one stone.

Hydratos has a lot of improvements, the map is more player friendly, NM spawn is ok, rewards are fair, leveling is fast enough, but it's definitely the most boring instance so far, even more so than Pagos is right now.

[Metalwrath]

Well of course in some instances will see low nm spawn rates.
And there are obvious reasons for this.A lot of people just afk at bunny fate waiting for others to spawn nm's for them.This has become much worse than it was in Pyros.
Then most of the others are all farming obscure logos at crystaline only killing the one type of mob.
In some instances i've spawned more NM's solo than the rest of the instance combined.

There's also the factor that 56 of those players might be in BA.

As for provenance watcher is just like Cassie there is another requirement we dont know which is why some instances never see it spawn.

Also OP your comment about BA being optional.No Yoshi didnt lie.It's completly optional.Eureka story is not main story quest so dont try twist meanings on this subject.You can get your finished relic and finished elemental armor without doing BA.All BA does is gives you some elemental bonuses on them designed as a progression method for clearing BA.
Sure it finishes story of Eureka but thats a personal choice and not something manditory to progress in the main game content.

Also if you want to talk about actual missing story through raids you'd be better off mentioning Bahamuts coil because it actually has relevance to ARR's main story and fills in the blanks not to mention it's relevant to story later on too.

[Mansion]

Yesterday I spent almost the whole timer in a Fate Spawn group. We got everything on the west side quickly, then the monks and wraiths one on the east. We ended up in claws and made two chains of 30, one of 22, with a second group joining us halfway through. PW pops, we have 15 minutes left on our timer. The whole instance comes.
UFO pops, the whole instance leaves to UFO.
Eventually, we go back to PW, our team leader got timed out 30 seconds before PW's death, i had 2 minutes left when it died too...

So yeah, if UFO could stop praty crushing up, that's be great

[Ilan]

Low NM spawn? I feel like we are not playing the same hydatos. Have you tried for example prep PW? Chain mobs for various purpose? you are constantly interrupted by NM spawns. I've not seen NM spawns this fast since anemos. Not only are NM's popping up all over the place you have the UFO popping every what 30min? I kid you not the past 2 days trying to do nm prep on PW the most Crystal claws we would kill would be 10 before another nm would spawn. It's actually annoying that they spawn so fast sometimes when you are trying to chain mobs.

Bunny Fate.. Well considering I never saw people do bunnies in pagos by the time I got around to doing it and pyros people only did the south bunny fate.. Can you really blame them for only putting in one bunny fate? This one sends you all over the map though so I'm not sure if it was much of a win. At least though when I am in a bunny group I don't have to listen to the occasional random whine about not doing the north bunny fate.

Some NM's aren't going to spawn because well lets face it the people who can spawn those are busy with BA. The people who aren't interested in BA and can spawn them are low in number. This will fix its self over time.

I love the zone, it isn't a cluster of death and unnecessarily large.

Story bits being gated behind BA, yeah not happy about hearing that. I suppose I may try to do it sometime or watch whatever on youtube. I'm not going to gripe that much about it. I still have uncompleted coils and HW trials.. not to mention SB trials. While I could do the more complicated content and certainly did have a static for awhile I just can't be bothered with that now days. too old I guess.. *shrug*

You can spawn the left side and also the Watcher pretty easy, but the rest on the right side spawns extremly bad.

[Celenia]

The problem is BA it self. People who want only do BA usually don't want to do anything. They either have finished their relic or they don't want to build relic. These people automatically hogging the eureka. (You will be surprised when they move and wait for NM support). What SE should do just remove BA and how to get in from eureka hydatos, put the instance BA queue on Kugane, abolished support fate, and if they return from BA (dead or no) will get leveled down (unless they beat ozma).