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  1. 02-21-2019 05:28 AM #1
    Bright-Flower
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    I'm surprised that they have support NMs out in Hydatos at all that affect what's going on inside. What do the 'support nms' actually do that affects the inside? Or is it just that you have to clear the support nms to get more people in?
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  2. 02-21-2019 05:31 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I'm surprised that they have support NMs out in Hydatos at all that affect what's going on inside. What do the 'support nms' actually do that affects the inside? Or is it just that you have to clear the support nms to get more people in?
    Absolute Virtue has a buff that will one shot everyone if it's not dispelled by completing the support fate outside. The bonus of clearing the support fate grants 8 more people access to the BA at that point to help the 48 people already inside to clear AV and then go on to Proto-Ozma. 48+8=56
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  3. 02-21-2019 05:52 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    Absolute Virtue has a buff that will one shot everyone if it's not dispelled by completing the support fate outside. The bonus of clearing the support fate grants 8 more people access to the BA at that point to help the 48 people already inside to clear AV and then go on to Proto-Ozma. 48+8=56
    Huh. That's... an interesting but I'd hesitate to say good design choice.
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  4. 02-21-2019 06:23 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Huh. That's... an interesting but I'd hesitate to say good design choice.
    You can say it is a bad design... Just my opinion.
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  5. 02-21-2019 06:27 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allistar View Post
    You can say it is a bad design... Just my opinion.
    Not sure i've spoken to anyone that would disagree. It is for sure bad design. I can't imagine how people feel on the inside of BA praying that the instance will kill the NM just so they can have a chance to possibly kill AV.
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    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allistar View Post
    You can say it is a bad design... Just my opinion.
    They could have made it harder and instead had a series of outside fates to go through all the Jailers in order to clear AV :P
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  8. 02-21-2019 05:31 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Huh. That's... an interesting but I'd hesitate to say good design choice.
    The idea is good if you think about it, at least, it's pretty new but the execution, again, does not work.
    People want to get into BA to get the Ozma mount, who cares about the low rewards for helping those inside by killing the NM ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    Absolute Virtue has a buff that will one shot everyone if it's not dispelled by completing the support fate outside. The bonus of clearing the support fate grants 8 more people access to the BA at that point to help the 48 people already inside to clear AV and then go on to Proto-Ozma. 48+8=56
    So they kinda made content that needs x amount of people in the future to even has a chance at clearing it? I can already see it...groups selling others their help by doing that fate so that the other players even just stand a chance at all.
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