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    How much Dev work would it be..

    If they combined PLD's sword and Shield into one item like they did with Ninja's Daggers and Monk's fist weapons?

    I'm not saying they should do this or that I even want this. Just wonder how much dev time it would take them to do this, or if it would save time in the future by having them one item instead of 2.
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    I assume they want to avoid the whining that would occur from people who like to mix/match.
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    I wouldn't mind if shields just didn't have stats and the PLD main weapon was the same cost and stat weight as other main weapons.

    Would open the door for:

    NIN weapon is just one dagger loaded with stats and one off-hand dagger with none.

    RDM weapon is just the rapier, with glam foci.

    Edit: MCH gets various hip box glams too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I wouldn't mind if Shields just didn't have stats and the PLD main weapon was the same cost and stat weight as other main weapons.

    Would open the door for:

    NIN weapon is just one dagger loaded with stats and one off-hand dagger with none.

    RDM weapon is just the rapier, with glam foci.

    Edit: MCH gets various hip box glams too.
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    Perhaps the focus should be on adding a mix-and-match glam option for dual-weilders, so Ninja's can glam 2 different daggers. Then they could easily merge shields and swords.
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    I think off-hand is completely underutilized outside of ARR and crafting classes. It would definitely be fun if more weapons could have customisable off-hand tools, looking at you MCH with your turret box or RDM with your floating crystal. They don't need stats (keep them on the main weapon) but for glamour purposes, I'd like to see it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    If they combined PLD's sword and Shield into one item like they did with Ninja's Daggers and Monk's fist weapons?

    I'm not saying they should do this or that I even want this. Just wonder how much dev time it would take them to do this, or if it would save time in the future by having them one item instead of 2.
    In the case of nin and mnk, both pieces are weapons so it's easy to class them as one item. In the case of pld however, the sword is a weapon and the shield is armour. They're not the same item type. The acquisition of shields is the same as weapons, but how they act stat-wise is really not.

    I don't know how much dev time it would take. But it likely would be a pain to do because they would have to change how weapon stats work to roll swords and shields into the one item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The acquisition of shields is the same as weapons, but how they act stat-wise is really not.
    You could simply change the Block formulas to scale with the ilvl of your Sword/Shield, since Block Rate and Block Strenght are completely related to ilvl.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    If they combined PLD's sword and Shield into one item like they did with Ninja's Daggers and Monk's fist weapons?

    I'm not saying they should do this or that I even want this. Just wonder how much dev time it would take them to do this, or if it would save time in the future by having them one item instead of 2.
    Well no one but the devs can say for sure how much development effort would be. But making it possible to buy a sword and shield with the same token was not a trivial effort and took a while.

    The main drawback - say goodbye to ever being able to glam different swords and shields when they're not a set. Not to mention some swords don't have a pairing shield (and vice versa), so you'd probably lose those entirely - as white mage lost the ability to glamor offhands.
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