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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeaHero69 View Post
    Do you think Square Enix might make public dungeons in future expansions, even if they won't do it the exact same way as Balesion Arsenal in Eureka? If so what changes would you want from them? For me probably the RNG auto raise since it can be a lil stressful when it doesn't work, especially at an Anti-Raise dungeon and probably not have a fate be involved in the future, since failing at it, either time running out or the fate resetting when every single person doing them dies and causes this to have little to no time to kill it.
    i hope so you know
    its a real fun place

    sure understand getting it all set up and the heavy requirement on premades is why Most don't like it( also think most people are hating it because they can and have never even attempt eureka pass anemos)
    but we should have more in the future
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    Remember how things were in FFXI? It would repeat in this game all over. The camping, the first come first serve. The Locking out.
    This is one of those ideas that's nice in a perfect world setting but in reality is very bad because of community behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Remember how things were in FFXI? It would repeat in this game all over. The camping, the first come first serve. The Locking out.
    This is one of those ideas that's nice in a perfect world setting but in reality is very bad because of community behavior.
    Sad thing is ppl aren't realizing xi never was bad with that in fact xiv only has 4 things over xi

    1 graphics
    2. Gender option for cats,roe
    3. Creation
    And 4 it can be played on ps4

    Literally outside those 4 xiv is alot worse


    Even if someone did camp or lock out its not like you have to run in circles for 30mins 2 a hour for a q which is alot better
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Sad thing is ppl aren't realizing xi never was bad with that in fact xiv only has 4 things over xi

    1 graphics
    2. Gender option for cats,roe
    3. Creation
    And 4 it can be played on ps4

    Literally outside those 4 xiv is alot worse


    Even if someone did camp or lock out its not like you have to run in circles for 30mins 2 a hour for a q which is alot better
    could let ff14 flourish and work on more original things
    referencing ff11 is all good since ff14 references other FF games enough
    but if you keep asking for ff11 stuff,
    you might aswell just play FF11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Sad thing is ppl aren't realizing xi never was bad with that in fact xiv only has 4 things over xi

    1 graphics
    2. Gender option for cats,roe
    3. Creation
    And 4 it can be played on ps4

    Literally outside those 4 xiv is alot worse


    Even if someone did camp or lock out its not like you have to run in circles for 30mins 2 a hour for a q which is alot better
    Sounds like you'd rather be playing XI. Good thing servers are still up and you can instead of complaining about how much worse XIV is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Sad thing is ppl aren't realizing xi never was bad with that in fact xiv only has 4 things over xi

    1 graphics
    2. Gender option for cats,roe
    3. Creation
    And 4 it can be played on ps4

    Literally outside those 4 xiv is alot worse


    Even if someone did camp or lock out its not like you have to run in circles for 30mins 2 a hour for a q which is alot better

    I prefer XIV over XI. Saying XIV is worse is subjective and opinionated since I personally like XIV more. And not just because of it's graphics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    could let ff14 flourish and work on more original things
    referencing ff11 is all good since ff14 references other FF games enough
    but if you keep asking for ff11 stuff,
    you might aswell just play FF11.
    Sometimes I feel that's the problem. I feel so many people want XI back that XIV cannot really have it's own identity. When we get new job announcements, the community want's them to be how it was in XI. When we get new content such as Diadem and Eureka, they want it done like it was in XI. Some of us actually like the way XIV is. What we don't want is the tedious things XI was infamous for. The deleving, having to be in a party for literally everything. Tagging things first along with the awful first come first server mentality which caters camping. The horrible grinding. Eureka was given to us to recreate the XI experience, and a lot of us dislike it. XI was a hardcore legacy game. XIV is a casual game. Should the XI fans be treated once in awhile? Sure absolutely. But trying to transform every aspect of this game into XI is not the way to do it.
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 02-19-2019 at 10:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Sounds like you'd rather be playing XI. Good thing servers are still up and you can instead of complaining about how much worse XIV is.
    And if your going to be anti final fantasy aspects like open world you shouldn't be playing any ff game period honestly what made xi overall better is it put final fantasy first then the mmo aspect and I'm will to bet if they upgrade xi's graphics add 2 the races/creation screen and made it go to ps4+ xiv would die in 4 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Sad thing is ppl aren't realizing xi never was bad with that in fact xiv only has 4 things over xi

    1 graphics
    2. Gender option for cats,roe
    3. Creation
    And 4 it can be played on ps4

    Literally outside those 4 xiv is alot worse


    Even if someone did camp or lock out its not like you have to run in circles for 30mins 2 a hour for a q which is alot better
    XI was my first MMO and I love the memories attached to it. However, I still prefer XIV over it, especially as I grow older and can't spend dozens of hours per week on it.

    And I second the opinions of the other commenters; XI is still up and running and if you're not enjoying XIV, you every right to play it over XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    And if your going to be anti final fantasy aspects like open world you shouldn't be playing any ff game period honestly what made xi overall better is it put final fantasy first then the mmo aspect and I'm will to bet if they upgrade xi's graphics add 2 the races/creation screen and made it go to ps4+ xiv would die in 4 hours
    What part of FFXIII was open? Just saying.
    FFXIV is more like an MMO version of FFXII

    The only FF game that really attempted true open world was FFXV and people were meh about how they did it. Sure it had open world dungeons but they were boring. They had very little to nothing inside them. Once you were done there was no reason to go back. XIV actually adds replay value. They just eventually kill off older dungeons so badly you never need to even do them once. Which is something that should be addressed.

    For some people the true FF experience would be how XI did it. For others it would be VII, or VIII or VI or I. There are so many FF games now that you can't really say which is the true FF experience. I think for many people, the true FF experience is in the story not the gameplay. The gameplay is very important but look at how many times they have reworked magic and renamed the spells. One moment it's Fire 1, 2, 3. then it's Fire, Fira, Firaga. Now it's back to 1, 2, 3 again. XIV is trying to bring all of the FF games together. Yes it's a fan service game but that's what makes it FFXIV. It's the blast to the past game that attempts to cater everyone. Will it succeed? Most certainly not. You cannot make everyone happy. But it sure as hell tries. And it does a good enough job. People say it's a dying game but we currently have more subscribers than FFXI ever did in it's prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    And if your going to be anti final fantasy aspects like open world you shouldn't be playing any ff game period honestly what made xi overall better is it put final fantasy first then the mmo aspect and I'm will to bet if they upgrade xi's graphics add 2 the races/creation screen and made it go to ps4+ xiv would die in 4 hours
    I'm not too big an FF player but I did complete VII, IX, and most of VI. I don't know what open world aspect you're talking about. You run around the map, get a random battle, and it was easier to escape random battles there than it is in 14. Real content was in cities and dungeons, all "instances".

    xiv would die in 4 hours
    And rise out of the ashes like the independent entity it should've been because XI people will have a revived XI to go to?

    On topic, echoing the request to have any possible future dungeons not be tied to a long, niche content like Euerka. At the very least, allow for other ways to access it, sort of like how you can get to certain dungeons either from their dedicated quests, or each of the GCs (and then retake that quest per GC as needed...). Because I really want to go in there, but I'm the only person out of my FC who got out of Anemos. Very unlikely they'll invest the time needed to get to Hydatos, and even then we might not all be able to make it inside together. That's... yea.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 02-19-2019 at 10:37 PM.

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