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    ShivaTairo's Avatar
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    Emerald Natsumi
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    I remember seeing the roadmap for Blu, and how yoshi was so proud about this horrible platter of crap.
    That road map NEVER happened, it was supposed to by 5.0 lol

    Blu is dead, pissed
    And ranged caster was the WORST choice for blue mage.
    Blus are physical, period. They always use swords
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    Last edited by ShivaTairo; 09-08-2019 at 09:47 AM.

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    Lich Kaiser
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    YoshiP never liked blue mage to be implemented to FF14, he highly disapproved it as a job, and implemented just for the fan base. Blue architecture isnt good for a mmo old style like ff14, is more a single player rpg style job. And as it is now will allways be just a mini-game job for 2/3 weeks content.. or less.
    Blu will never be reworked as a REAL job, sad but true, it will just get a level increase to match with old content, some new magic and some unique content/minigame, thats it. Blu mage its just a mini game job to run old stuff for 2/3 week and then forget about his existance.
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    Leif Freivjr
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LichKaiser View Post
    YoshiP never liked blue mage to be implemented to FF14, he highly disapproved it as a job, and implemented just for the fan base. Blue architecture isnt good for a mmo old style like ff14, is more a single player rpg style job. And as it is now will allways be just a mini-game job for 2/3 weeks content.. or less.
    Blu will never be reworked as a REAL job, sad but true, it will just get a level increase to match with old content, some new magic and some unique content/minigame, thats it. Blu mage its just a mini game job to run old stuff for 2/3 week and then forget about his existance.
    It has worked in a multiplayer environment before, it can work in a multiplayer environment again. If FFXIV is so constrained, so strict, that they can't design around a concept as simple as 'Job that uses skills that enemies also use,' then we might as well never expect any genuinely new gameplay out of this game.
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    Last edited by Verlyn; 09-09-2019 at 09:44 AM.

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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKaiser View Post
    YoshiP never liked blue mage to be implemented to FF14, he highly disapproved it as a job, and implemented just for the fan base. Blue architecture isnt good for a mmo old style like ff14, is more a single player rpg style job.
    I disagree on BLU's architecture not being good for an MMO. BLU design doesn't have to be all or nothing in terms of what players can learn from mobs, though the developers seem to disagree with me as they think BLU has to learn ridiculously OP spells in order to live up to the concept.

    I mean barebones without mechanics, you could have BLU with 27-28 ability slots like a standard job. Have a standard set of monster spells they have to unlock by killing corresponding mobs. Use the spellbook architecture currently in place to have certain spells be swappable. For example, the lv35 job quest spell could be White Wind, but the spellbook will show you can swap that for other spells that count as utility skills (maybe a nerfed version of Mighty Guard, or Moon Flute), provided you've done the legwork to unlock them. For content like the Masked Carnivale, let the BLU get access to even more spells that they would not be able to use in duties/dungeons/raids.

    And in case anyone would say "it'd be unfair for BLU to be a regular job and have content dedicated to it", I'll point to the fact that I'm the guy that suggested BRD get its own content because it makes sense in terms of lore and job concept, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-10-2019 at 09:21 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaTairo View Post
    I remember seeing the roadmap for Blu, and how yoshi was so proud about this horrible platter of crap.
    That road map NEVER happened, it was supposed to by 5.0 lol

    Blu is dead, pissed
    And ranged caster was the WORST choice for blue mage.
    Blus are physical, period. They always use swords
    Well actually no
    Ff5 they used swords
    Strago used staffs and wasnt physical oriented
    Ff7 enemy skill only had a few physical skills and wasnt cloud exclusive
    Quistis used a whip and again only a few skills did physical damage
    Quina used a fork and again werent necessarily physical spells
    Khimari used a spear
    11 had swords and physical spells
    Tactics used swords
    Bravely Default they used daggers natively and lots of physical magic so it fits
    Bravely Second uses cats and physical weaponry so again fits your bill

    So overall its a mix not just physical swords
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    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
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    Jets Down
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaTairo View Post
    Blus are physical, period. They always use swords
    I'm sorry what?!

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    Seems to me Blue Mages use whatever they want in their respective game FFXIV version uses canes and you know what i like that it is different wish more than 3 designs though >_>

    BLU needs to be reworked into either the most OP thing in the content it can do or a regular job they already have a system where you cannot do the Blue Mage questline without having learned specific spells no real reason not to set it up for df content too.
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