Rework Bluemage!

[Kurando]

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That's pretty damn selfish of you.

As I stated, it was not clear whether your response was directed at me personally or if your target was SE hence when you mentioned the above. The wording seemed like it was at me and the tone of the rest of the post did as well. To which I thought hold on, BLU isn't my creation why is she/he coming at me about it. I'm also in no way saying players can't ask for change, I'm not stopping them from doing that at all nor am I shutting them down at every instance, so to say I'm fighting back is an act of selfish on this occasion is wholeheartedly incorrect, I'm sharing my opinion on the situation just like everyone else and yourself. I also never once used the term "whining", try not to quote things that aren't there. It could very well just be miscommunication that got us here, so let's leave that there shall we and focus on the topic.

However if we go on the facts (which is why sources are provided) SE have a roadmap on what they want to do and that it seems to be sticking to that for the time being (so lvl cap to 60, more spells, carnival stuff etc). I want to see how these pan out before advocating for any kind of rework, but I'm not against anything happening sooner, I just think it would still be premature at this stage and that BLU hasn't been around long enough to warrant it.

Yes it's true the devs stance might change, the job could very well go in a different direction perhaps one that more players prefer, but as I highlighted earlier in the thread it's difficult to get an exact idea of what players actually want moving forward. Some want a full job, some don't, if anything SE needs to do an actual official survey for the job sent to everyone (with sub) so they can get the required feedback, the forums are not enough to get a big picture. As either SE read select feedback and take it BLU is fine, or they are in a bubble and it's not, meaning they COULD be in denial but I don't know how they correlate their data for this stuff.

I also probably wouldn't use previous jobs as an example (PLD, NIN, WAR) as they were not Limited Jobs, and changes made to them had a greater effect on gameplay in comparison to BLU. Like Yoshi mentioned in that article they thought BLU was powerful (take that as you will), but as they restricted the job anyway they probably aren't putting balance as a priority, it doesn't really matter if they are under or over powered, at least for now.

[Phoenicia]

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Using a hypothetical "you" is easier to express some discussions which might deliver a better message.

As for "waiting long enough to warrant it", it depends on many things and speaking from experience, if they "wait" until something warrants change, it is already too late. ESPECIALLY when you account for their very limited resources and the player-base perceptions, which is very slow to change because first impressions matter most. Just look at tanks in Stormblood, SE removed the stance switch gauge penalty as they released Deltascape, people just didn't use WAR. DRK got 3 buffs and PLD 4 nerfs, yet when given the option people would exclude DRK from their groups.

We should use previous jobs as examples as they are "content". Content and jobs are made by the same people. They made mistakes when they were made or changed, "stuck to their guns" for a while, then submit to fix their mistakes. 2.0 WAR was a mistake. 2.3 NIN power was a mistake. HW PLD was a mistake. Diadem was a mistake.

Yoshida said 2.0 WAR was powerful in a very similar article back in 2013 just like how is he claiming BLU is strong now in an article in 2019. It's irrelevant what he thinks or says. He will say anything to save face.

So what they did with BLU is also a mistake in the form that it is not what the people that wanted BLU asked for. I personally was on the indifferent camp to be frank, but seeing how, despite complaining about all the limited resources to why we're not getting many things we ask for, we are getting content we're not even asking for.

Regardless of whither an unidentified amount of people like said content or not. People played and mained HW PLD. Others enjoyed Diadem. I, myself, played 2.0 WAR. Did not mean that WAR did deserve buffs in 2.0, or HW PLD needed help or for Diadem to be rethought completely for them to create Eureka (which is a much better Diadem even though it is not my cup of tea).

Speaking of the "limited resource" excuse, I hate this more so than the old "memory limitation" back when they still had PS3 support. I mean what are they placing all money we keep forking for those extra retainers, mounts, outfits and fantasias, eh? As a paying customer, one of my simplest rights is to express where I am not satisfied by what I'm given for what I paid. Specially that one of the reasons I keep paying is the promise of future satisfaction with future content, of which BLU and Diadem did not fulfill.

[Shadow_Sama]

I feel so bad for the players who have been waiting on their favorite job to make it into the game only for it to become a limited job. I never had any interest in BLU becoming my main job. However, I was excited with the people who were really anticipating this job. I was happy for them knowing they were gonna play the job they always wanted. But from the outside looking in, I feel it's devastating to know that the job you've been holding out on for years and have been looking most forward to playing comes out as a limited job.

I love Ninja. I've been playing since 1.0 and I remember that yearning to play as a Ninja since 1.0 first came out. When they announced Ninja I was ecstatic. I was so excited and happy after waiting for years to finally play my Ninja job. I can only imagine the level of disappointment to be in that frame of mind only to discover that what you've wanted is limited and can never truly be. Blue Mage deserves to be a full job and I shutter to think that they would do this again. To Beast Master? Geomancer? let me not give them any ideas. I think Limited Jobs are a terrible idea, and it's a decision I cannot stand by with Yoshi P on.

The dev team should rework BLU and make it into a full job without a doubt.