Rework Bluemage!

[Duelle]

YoshiP never liked blue mage to be implemented to FF14, he highly disapproved it as a job, and implemented just for the fan base. Blue architecture isnt good for a mmo old style like ff14, is more a single player rpg style job.

I disagree on BLU's architecture not being good for an MMO. BLU design doesn't have to be all or nothing in terms of what players can learn from mobs, though the developers seem to disagree with me as they think BLU has to learn ridiculously OP spells in order to live up to the concept.

I mean barebones without mechanics, you could have BLU with 27-28 ability slots like a standard job. Have a standard set of monster spells they have to unlock by killing corresponding mobs. Use the spellbook architecture currently in place to have certain spells be swappable. For example, the lv35 job quest spell could be White Wind, but the spellbook will show you can swap that for other spells that count as utility skills (maybe a nerfed version of Mighty Guard, or Moon Flute), provided you've done the legwork to unlock them. For content like the Masked Carnivale, let the BLU get access to even more spells that they would not be able to use in duties/dungeons/raids.

And in case anyone would say "it'd be unfair for BLU to be a regular job and have content dedicated to it", I'll point to the fact that I'm the guy that suggested BRD get its own content because it makes sense in terms of lore and job concept, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ReiMakoto]

I remember seeing the roadmap for Blu, and how yoshi was so proud about this horrible platter of crap.
That road map NEVER happened, it was supposed to by 5.0 lol

Blu is dead, pissed
And ranged caster was the WORST choice for blue mage.
Blus are physical, period. They always use swords

Well actually no
Ff5 they used swords
Strago used staffs and wasnt physical oriented
Ff7 enemy skill only had a few physical skills and wasnt cloud exclusive
Quistis used a whip and again only a few skills did physical damage
Quina used a fork and again werent necessarily physical spells
Khimari used a spear
11 had swords and physical spells
Tactics used swords
Bravely Default they used daggers natively and lots of physical magic so it fits
Bravely Second uses cats and physical weaponry so again fits your bill

So overall its a mix not just physical swords

[Crushnight]

Blus are physical, period. They always use swords

I'm sorry what?!

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Seems to me Blue Mages use whatever they want in their respective game FFXIV version uses canes and you know what i like that it is different wish more than 3 designs though >_>

BLU needs to be reworked into either the most OP thing in the content it can do or a regular job they already have a system where you cannot do the Blue Mage questline without having learned specific spells no real reason not to set it up for df content too.

[Jukebox12]

This will never happen it has been stated already sry it's a limited job which means limited I know everyone wants blue mage to be a main job but it will not be the same feel as every other final fantasy blue mage which the current one does

[Verlyn]

All it needs to do to feel like every other Final Fantasy Blue Mage is learn enemy skills through a passive or active interaction with them. It already does this.

Exploiting Dark Cutter and Level 5 Death ala FF5 speedruns is not the gameplay most people engage in when using the job in its many many iterations. There have been iterations where it had limited to no exploitative nonsense, and nobody complained. The only iteration that had more than a handful of spells was FFXI's and while that would be *nice*, most of us understand that it would create a logistical nightmare to balance, and are okay with a model more like the majority of its appearances.

Saying "It will not happen" is opposition for opposition's sake.

[Brightshadow]

I remember seeing the roadmap for Blu, and how yoshi was so proud about this horrible platter of crap.
That road map NEVER happened, it was supposed to by 5.0 lol

Blu is dead, pissed
And ranged caster was the WORST choice for blue mage.
Blus are physical, period. They always use swords

What purpose other than cosmetic would a sword provide to BLU. In most of the titles that had BLU they only used the sword for the first couple of spells then their swords began to gather dust. The exceptions were FFVIII, X, and XI and that was because in 8 and 10 Blue Magic was limit breaks and in 11 they had the skillchain gimmick. The sword was never a part of BLU identity, that belonged to RDM who is a mix of WAR,BLM, and WHM. BLU was always about learning fiend magic and using it against their foes. My theory on why they used physical weapons in some older FFs is because they needed to learn their first spells, so they had to deal decent damage somehow; however that's not the case in FF14 since we learn our first spell from a cutscene fight.

So I must agree with ReiMakoto on this point and say no to the sword.

Plus our pimp canes are so stylish I could have never thought of such a neat design for a weapon.

[Tennotsukai]

What purpose other than cosmetic would a sword provide to BLU. In most of the titles that had BLU they only used the sword for the first couple of spells then their swords began to gather dust. The exceptions were FFVIII, X, and XI and that was because in 8 and 10 Blue Magic was limit breaks and in 11 they had the skillchain gimmick. The sword was never a part of BLU identity, that belonged to RDM who is a mix of WAR,BLM, and WHM. BLU was always about learning fiend magic and using it against their foes. My theory on why they used physical weapons in some older FFs is because they needed to learn their first spells, so they had to deal decent damage somehow; however that\\'s not the case in FF14 since we learn our first spell from a cutscene fight.

So I must agree with ReiMakoto on this point and say no to the sword.

Plus our pimp canes are so stylish I could have never thought of such a neat design for a weapon.

Don't forget about FF Explorers (they could dual wield swords and even equip guns); though, I know it's not a numbered FF game. Ffxi Blu ended up being very dependent on dual wield swords to the point that skillchains with spells almost became a dps loss. I understand that ffxiv is not ffxi. I really don't mind the weapon they use now, just the limit of the job.

[Zerogunsoul81]

The thing is. If their excuse was it was soooooo powerful that it couldn't work in normal play. Make it super god like in the old fights! Let me cast Doom on Ifrit and kill him! Let me use Level 5 Death on Omega! At least then I could use it to farm old content for glams and mounts. But of noooooo. They have to make it a super weak class that also can't do actual content.

[RightfulKing]

The way BLU has been implemented is just so dull and unimaginative. I wish Square would just admit they messed up with this whole "limited job" thing and fix it.

[Allegor]

The way BLU has been implemented is just so dull and unimaginative. I wish Square would just admit they messed up with this whole "limited job" thing and fix it.

Sadly, the fact they're expanding on that concept rather than stalling it longer and make a complete rework on the job speaks otherwise. 100% waste of resources if it's going to be dead content within a month...again