I think a pug group could get through it but the way it is we will never find out. I manage to get a hours worth of play in the last 7 days. first time was with a group of 3 pts never got past first boss but was fun I enjoyed it. 2nd time I lucked into we ran out of time but I could see absolute virtue in the back . 3rd time I seen discord doing there thing but 1 party was not locked and password protected.... it blew my mind so I took it. then came the discord password which I don't use to play games. after 5 min of convincing them I could do that I pug savage they said ok enter at your own risk lol so I did and died at end of first boss cause I was a tad slow on the last aoe he did. left for dead I had no choice but to leave. Before this I figured in the next 5 months or so till Shadow brings comes out I could get a clear and the mount. I have my doubts. But wouldn't it be simple enough to have open PF's or just take in 3-4 full pts to leave room for ppl in the zone. As much forms I have read on the matter I cant believe how much blame is tossed towards full discord groups and taking portals not to mention miss leading facts on those matters ex. taking portal is sniping which is untrue I seen the follow up gm report about it If u take to play and no just to get in and exit etc.. that nothing has evolved past that. Until if ever SE makes it DF optional or takes away locked PF etc. I see no reason why we the ppl who play cant simply say PF is unlocked discord is not needed feel free to join. I'm willing to bet that will cut done the real sniping. There has got to be like over hundred ppl that are actively playing BA who can make this happen. The ball is not on the pugs court. ty all I said more than I said all day lol but id really love to play this content on my ps4 and no discord.