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    Roxanne Steele
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    I'd like to see 5-man dungeons, with a slight caveat...

    Depending the dungeon, it would have different roles available.

    For example, a 5-man dungeon where there are two tanks, featuring bosses that require tank swaps.

    A 5-man dungeon with two healers, feature mechanics that specifically targets healers.

    Just some extra dungeons to maybe help teach players some mechanics that they don't normally experience in normal dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollout View Post
    Depending the dungeon, it would have different roles available.

    For example, a 5-man dungeon where there are two tanks, featuring bosses that require tank swaps.

    A 5-man dungeon with two healers, feature mechanics that specifically targets healers.

    Just some extra dungeons to maybe help teach players some mechanics that they don't normally experience in normal dungeons.
    I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.
    They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man. Probably more impossible because of spaghetti code rather than outright impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man.
    It would still require a complete redesign of the dungeons, both for the added role to be added to the mechanics of the party finder and to rebalance ALL the dungeons for five men over four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man. Probably more impossible because of spaghetti code rather than outright impossible.
    Having to wait on 2 tanks or 2 healers for a dungeon would also make the queue times increase by a rather large amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.
    A 5th party member could spice things up. A support role job could also add a lot to the game. Yes, this would be a major rework, but there's no harm in sharing ideas like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    A 5th party member could spice things up. A support role job could also add a lot to the game. Yes, this would be a major rework, but there's no harm in sharing ideas like this.
    this is the third time I've seen this topic, in the last two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    this is the third time I've seen this topic, in the last two weeks.
    Welcome to the OF where the same topic gets posted about quite often. \o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    A 5th party member could spice things up. A support role job could also add a lot to the game. Yes, this would be a major rework, but there's no harm in sharing ideas like this.
    Regardless, adding a fifth role, especially if it's a "tailored to new dungeon mechanics" role would require quite a lot of resources to implement, aside from it also taking dungeons offline for them to work on, as well as all the time needed to re-balance every encounter in dungeons to accommodate a customized role for every dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    Regardless, adding a fifth role, especially if it's a "tailored to new dungeon mechanics" role would require quite a lot of resources to implement, aside from it also taking dungeons offline for them to work on, as well as all the time needed to re-balance every encounter in dungeons to accommodate a customized role for every dungeon.
    Yes, I realize this. However, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't ever hope to see improvements to the game, or expansions upon the job system.
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