Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
Reward systems themselves are game mechanics. The idea that "content must be fun without reward" goes against many game design principles. Gambling relies entirely on that idea, are you saying that poker or roulette is poorly designed because its not fun without reward?
A lot of people play both without any real reward. The mechanics are inherently fun. Similar to how some people like joining clear parties with no reward, do speed runs, etc. Etc. If the content is fun you will revisit just for the sake of it.

I also agree rewards are a game mechanic and that farming type content is perfectly valid. But it’s also valid that a huge part of the community didn’t mind the farming of previous relics but absolutely loath eureka. It’s also valid that given the wide spread complaints and disregard for the content (I would say only 5-10% of the people I know in game have bothered with eureka past pagos) it should be understood that this content was not well received (NA at least).

Considering they plan on making a 5.0 eureka I understand people are losing their shit.