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[Epidendrum]

Thats what not working here at all. For example the placing of ABCD on seiryu here, some do (clockwise) ABCD like i prefer, some do ACDB or ABDC which is gettin annying if youre done it 30+ times on one way xD

Or the typical do a mechanic clockwhise like on Ozma back then - you would always encounter ppl insisting on doing it counterclockwise. Or on Cid now, the same, some just cant run left it seems...

And i myself never used any voicechat for any content. I did learn most the SB primals blindly, unlike back at HW when it was the first time for me doing such things on release... it was way more fun learing it, improoving, the feeling to finally beat em...

Meanwhile i know many ppl who only get carried and clear stuff only by call outs - be id VC or even cheaper from ACT >_>

I see. Thanks as well for sharing your experiences, Kuroka. I'm starting to see why the regional data centres have such vast differences in culture(in game). I think what happened is that many players in NA/EU are (more?) comfortable with voice chat and have used call outs for quite some time, perhaps from other games. It is an effective tool, but using it too much results in over-reliance. Some players think that they won't be able to play as effectively without it.

While some(not all, some are doing just fine with the macro) JP progression teams do use voicechat, they are a minority in the community. Voice chat isn't a common practice in Gaia, some of us have it but it's more of a "fun to have", or "I want to talk to hear another person's voice" kind of thing. Instead knowledge transmission is by written/typed means in order to reach different platforms (PC/PS4) and people who are unable or unwilling to use external tools/programs, to ensure its effectiveness for everyone it is either fixed or has little room for variation. It reaches everyone who wants the information, but doesn't have the same versatility of voice chat in real time. This leaves the burden on the individual to lookout for things (boss cast bar, markings on the floor, etc.)

With regards to the arsenal, I think I understand a bit more about the reasons behind the mostly negative response in NA/EU. Thank you as well to everyone else who shared, and helped me to understand.

[Rhus]

Numbers for sure. First attempt at forming inside we got about 21 people (2 parties and a couple people floating) then 6 and 7 people in my next 2 attempts so not even enough for 1 full party.
Also a mindset thing I'd say. Too many people sit outside and pass judgement on those who pug it with comments like "we barely cleared with a full 56 and on discord, you're attempting it with 20/30 and no discord..I give it 10 minutes and they'll be out" which leads to people thinking we can't clear it without being in a premade and anything else is futile.

[Xellos2099]

Numbers for sure. First attempt at forming inside we got about 21 people (2 parties and a couple people floating) then 6 and 7 people in my next 2 attempts so not even enough for 1 full party.
Also a mindset thing I'd say. Too many people sit outside and pass judgement on those who pug it with comments like "we barely cleared with a full 56 and on discord, you're attempting it with 20/30 and no discord..I give it 10 minutes and they'll be out" which leads to people thinking we can't clear it without being in a premade and anything else is futile.

Well, we now know it can scale it down to 32. So in theory if no one die at all, people willing to die for the portal you can probably clear with 32 but you are nearly room for error.

[LaylaTsarra]

It's my understanding it's hard to use discord and play with your friends unless one of them is interested in being a leader of a party. If so that should be changed. i've leveled with a friend through all 4 zones and cannot play with her unless one of us leads a party she tells me. She's done 1 frag run so far and I've starting getting things together to get gear and logo's but I'm not really motivated to want to play without her or other friends.

[Xiomara]

I've finally completed all my other Eureka goals, so now I'm about to enter BA for the first time. Epidendrum, can you post the JP macro? I don't want to cause any delays to the JP PUG I join by attempting to translate it in the instance.

[Epidendrum]

I've finally completed all my other Eureka goals, so now I'm about to enter BA for the first time. Epidendrum, can you post the JP macro? I don't want to cause any delays to the JP PUG I join by attempting to translate it in the instance.

Sure, here you go. Hope I don't get banned or suspended for posting this in the English forums though. Added the preamble text before the macro to provide proper context. Be sure to let the party know you're new to all bosses. Not sure how things are in Elemental but I hope you have just a good as a time I have had so far in Gaia. Some parties will give an abridged version, a "drawn" image for a macro - especially for Ozma, which basically shows one of the platforms, Ozma to the front, and highlights dropping meteors to your group's left and rear of platform, while the "ball" is dropped to the right of your platform. The long version with explanation is given below. If you have any doubts, I suggest cross-referencing Elysium's BA guide. The macro below serves as a means to tell all players what to expect from upcoming bosses, as some mechanics require preemptive movement. Players can just scroll up and down their chat window in game to read it, no need to alt-tab or for PS4 players check their mobile/tablet for a guide on the internet.

はじめに
バルデシオンアーセナル野良攻略用の簡易マクロです
MT強攻撃や全体範囲攻撃などのギミックのないものは省いてあります
ギミックの詳細は別の方の詳しい日記や記事を探してみて下さい
このマクロはギミックをある程度理解をした上で使用してください
1ボスの逆サイドの部屋、6部屋に分かれる場所の端から端にはyellやsayが届きません
意思疎通はshoutで行うようにしましょう


開始時警告
/y 段差から降りたら戻れません　アクションやPTメンバーをチェックしてから降りてください<wait.2>
/y PT毎に分かれ、ヒーラーは必ず一人は入れてください<wait.2>
/y 蘇生制限によりレイズ・フェニックスの尾等は使用できません 唯一使用できるサクリファイスも万能ではないので死なないように立ち回ってください<wait.2>
/y サイトラは東西に1人ずつ必要です 段差を降りる前に確認してください

その他マクロ色々
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1ボス「オーウェン＆アルト」
/y 1ボス「オーウェン＆アルト」時間切れ：なし<wait.2>
/y ※※開始時の正面が南、メルダー側が東、ミキサー側が西です 方角に注意してください※※<wait.2>
/y 東メルダー側「オーウェン」：ボスが赤なら青い槍の周囲、青なら赤の槍の周囲が安置<wait.2>
/y 　　【エレメンタルチェンジ】：属性が変わる（MTは特に注意）<wait.2>
/y 　　【白き手】：手の方を見ると手が止まる　線を短くしてDPSチェック<wait.2>
/y 西ミキサー側「アルト」：槍が降ってきたときのAOEが円形なら槍から離れる、ドーナツなら槍に近づく

1ボス後道中
/sh 1ボス後道中<wait.2>
/sh 階段の間の平坦な場所の中央に1箇所、箱の部屋に4箇所、罠があるのでサイトラ持ちが先導してください<wait.2>
/sh サイトラ持ちが通った道を歩いてください<wait.2>
/sh リフレッシュヒーラーがいないタンクはマギアエーテル節約のため、なるべく属性を変えずに進行してください

2ボス「ライディーン」
/y 2ボス「ライディーン」時間切れ：なし<wait.2>
/y 【天逆鉾】：ボス中心円形範囲<wait.2>
/y 【旋・斬鉄剣】：ドーナツ型範囲<wait.2>
/y ボスが消えたら真ん中→AOEを中央に捨てて突進を避ける(剣じゃない側へ)<wait.2>
/y 【雷槍】：外周捨て→DPSチェック<wait.2>
/y 【襲雷】：エクサフレア<wait.2>
/y 【戦死撃】：ボス中心範囲<wait.2>
/y 【渦雷】：強範囲攻撃

2ボス後道中その1(ボス撃破後)
/y 2ボス後道中その1(ボス撃破後)<wait.2>
/y 雑魚大量部屋に1箇所、6部屋のうち奥2個は罠2箇所確定です 罠、転移装置を探してください<wait.2>
/y 詠唱は睡眠で止められます 白黒は迅速魔を使って入れましょう

2ボス後道中その2(6部屋散開)
/sh 2ボス後道中その2(6部屋散開)<wait.2>
/sh ここからはyellが届かないのでシャウトで意思疎通してください<wait.2>
/sh 部屋をマップ基準で<wait.2>
/sh A　B　C<wait.2>
/sh D　E　F<wait.2>
/sh とします　6パーティーにタンク1ヒラ1必須です

外部FATE「アーセナル調査支援」
/sh 外部FATE「アーセナル調査支援」<wait.2>
/sh ロゴスアクション【フェイント】【ディスペル】が必須です<wait.2>
/sh 【ショックスパイク】物理攻撃を反射→ディスペルで解除<wait.2>
/sh 【マイティストライク】クリティカルアップ→ディスペルで解除<wait.2>
/sh 【連続魔】2パターン　※2技目は無詠唱 <wait.2>
/sh 　①トルネドII→エアロガIV：足元に行ってから、離れる <wait.2>
/sh 　②エアロガIV→トルネドII：離れてから、足元に行く <wait.2>
/sh 　（トルネド：ドーナツ範囲　エアロガ：ボス中心円形範囲）

3ボス「アブソリュートヴァーチュー」
/y 3ボス「アブソリュートヴァーチュー」時間切れ：7分30秒<wait.2>
/y 【変異】：ボスの頭と腕の色が変化 白なら白強化 黒なら黒強化<wait.2>
/y 【極性波動】：円形範囲攻撃　※強化された色が拡大する※<wait.2>
/y 【インパクトストリーム】：フィールド2分割攻撃 強化されてない方に入る<wait.2>
/y 【エーテル乱流】：線で玉とつながる 黒玉なら白円 白玉なら黒円に入る（スプリント推奨、処理できない場合は外周で爆発させる）<wait.2>
/y 【コールワイバーン】：雷属性の雑魚が２匹湧く DPSチェック

4ボス「プロトオズマ」
/y 4ボス「プロトオズマ」時間切れ10分30秒<wait.2>
/y 星型：離れる　（円形範囲）　　MT以外に頭割りAA<wait.2>
/y 四角：近づく　（ドーナツ範囲）MTに直線範囲AA 青玉湧き<wait.2>
/y 三角：円通路　（直線攻撃）　　MT以外にペインAA<wait.2>
/y まる：青い円　（ブラックホール）MTに強AA<wait.2>
/y 【ブラックホール】：6箇所の青い円に乗っていないと拠点エーテライトに戻される<wait.2>
/y 【シューティングスター】：青い円の中心から全方位ノックバック（堅実等有効）<wait.2>
/y 【加速度爆弾】：移動・行動すると範囲爆発する爆弾<wait.2>
/y 【メテオインパクト】：対象円形範囲攻撃→距離減衰攻撃→雑魚湧き<wait.2>
/y 【ホーリー】：中央ボスからのノックバック攻撃<wait.2>
/y 【青玉】：円通路に青玉が出現→時計回りに移動 触ると爆発して範囲ダメージ<wait.2>
/y 【メテオ】：頭割り攻撃→魔法防御低下デバフ(青玉を耐えられなくなる)

/y 散開図・注意点（各PTマーカー配置をお願いします）<wait.2>
/y 　　D（フィールド奥）<wait.2>
/y C　　　１<wait.2>
/y B　　　２<wait.2>
/y 　　A（降りた所）<wait.2>
/y 【開始位置、集合場所】：AB→A CD→C 12→1 MTは右角、他全員は左角<wait.2>
/y 【ブラックホール】：各PTのマーカーへ移動<wait.2>
/y 【加速度爆弾】：移動、行動禁止(AAも禁止)<wait.2>
/y 【メテオインパクト】：「開始位置の後ろ側」と「時計回りに移動したマーカー」の2箇所に捨てる<wait.2>
/y 【雑魚取り】：各PTタンク全員でタゲを取る→四角いフィールドに持っていく(AB、CD、12のグループにいる雑魚を釣る)<wait.2>
/y 【青玉】：MTが取る(STは補助に入る心構えをする)、他のPTは左角にしっかり集まる<wait.2>
/y 【メテオ】：MT以外で頭割り(念のためSTも受けない方が良い)<wait.2>
/y AC1はMT必須、STは保険でいた方がいいです 出来るだけタンク2ヒラ2がいるフルPTで担当してください<wait.2>
/y 各PTリーダーはロール構成と、どこのマーカーに行くかをyellしてください

[Kuroka]

Im glad i could give you insight, but ofc thats only what i experienced and other might know it differently....

But holy mother crystal that macro - i saw ppl post smg similar for the support fate and ppl were annoyed and called it spam or jsut were too lazy to read at all... xD



I wanna ask, do you encounter ppl with the statless Eureka weapon too? in dutys and BA? Lately ive run into many using a 385-405 without any substats with is... annyoing >_>

Instead knowledge transmission is by written/typed means in order to reach different platforms (PC/PS4) and people who are unable or unwilling to use external tools/programs, to ensure its effectiveness for everyone it is either fixed or has little room for variation. It reaches everyone who wants the information, but doesn't have the same versatility of voice chat in real time. This leaves the burden on the individual to lookout for things (boss cast bar, markings on the floor, etc.)

Written Guides kinda died off anyways, just as macros... i think last time i saw some on... omg Nidhogg? xD
Mostly its video, which i rly hate tbh.... i just cant learn from that.... *sigh*

I recall a friend being only able to clear suzaku and byakko by gettin callouts on voice, while he barely ever managed without it, as he learned the fight, but not as in why he does what but only to repeat from memory... that is smt i suppose makes stuff so hard, many just blindly repeat instead of knowing why, so when things went downhill everyone panics and dies...

And back then on Sophia ex (i feel old now XD) i watched an former fc members stream and could hear how he used ACT callouts + his own with is just... i dont feel its evil or wrong but jsut... meh i would not wanna play like that.

[Epidendrum]

Im glad i could give you insight, but ofc thats only what i experienced and other might know it differently....

But holy mother crystal that macro - i saw ppl post smg similar for the support fate and ppl were annoyed and called it spam or jsut were too lazy to read at all... xD

I wanna ask, do you encounter ppl with the statless Eureka weapon too? in dutys and BA? Lately ive run into many using a 385-405 without any substats with is... annyoing >_>

Written Guides kinda died off anyways, just as macros... i think last time i saw some on... omg Nidhogg? xD
Mostly its video, which i rly hate tbh.... i just cant learn from that.... *sigh*

I recall a friend being only able to clear suzaku and byakko by gettin callouts on voice, while he barely ever managed without it, as he learned the fight, but not as in why he does what but only to repeat from memory... that is smt i suppose makes stuff so hard, many just blindly repeat instead of knowing why, so when things went downhill everyone panics and dies...

And back then on Sophia ex (i feel old now XD) i watched an former fc members stream and could hear how he used ACT callouts + his own with is just... i dont feel its evil or wrong but jsut... meh i would not wanna play like that.

Well, the thing about that macro is that it's for the entire arsenal. The macro provider for that instance will trigger the appropriate section of the macro when coming up to a specific boss or part of the arsenal where there are things to note, e.g. traps, how to do the rooms, etc. The line breaks in the above macro demarcate the different sections. As for reading, if you ever have the chance to take a bus or train in Japan, just look around during the long rides. You'll see folks, young and old pull out books, not just manga but novels, non-fiction books on astronomy, marine life, etc., paperbacks mostly. Not ebooks or electronic readers, physical books are more common. There's a strong reading and writing culture, people love to read. Reading pages and pages of text is associated with enjoyment - leisure reading. Reading is not associated with something boring or a chore. Writing, I'll elaborate on later.

As for statless weapons on some people, yes we have them; not often but I see one or two occasionally. We have all sorts of folks just like other data centres, though the percentages of each kind will probably vary. However, those players I've seen on Gaia, I understand why they are doing it. These people that I encountered are using the 405 physeos variant, which means although statless it has the massive +348 elemental bonus. As for annoyance, that's up to you. The groups(FC/LS) I play with are a rather reserved bunch. Since this is a topic on the arsenal, I'll describe what I mean a bit more.

Let's say Ovni has just been brought down. People split up, going for the portals. Some are waiting by the portal, for it to stabilise. Someone comes along, uses a stabiliser and goes in. Now the first person needs to go look for another portal. Is that sniping? No, not by Gaia standards. No portal belongs to any one player, we recognise that. However, if two players don't have a stabiliser, they will try to find their own portals to wait beside. They will move on to find another if they see a player waiting beside one. It's a public instance with portals for a public dungeon that has consistently been cleared by PUGs. Players waiting by the portals are PUGs waiting to hopefully go in. That's why most Gaia parties only form inside the arsenal itself. Preformed parties may not be able to get every member in. Now for the person left outside, how do you think he/she feels? If that player is from Gaia, I would say mildly disappointed. Angry? No. Sad? No. Annoyed? No. Gaia folks are an inquisitive and rather emotionally detached bunch. Let's say this player left outside didn't manage to get another portal. Immediately, he/she shouts that a mutation mob party is forming, and will do two cycles (2 x 30 mobs). Some others will exit, check their retainers and go into anemos/pagos/pyros to spawn nm and chase after every nm that spawns. Look at this reaction, their thought process is this: (1) that's a bit disappointing, I didn't get a portal. (2) hey that's actually clever, that player put in effort to craft the stabiliser, if I had done so, I would have gone into the arsenal already. (3) I'll go use the time to try to craft a stabiliser or two. With luck I might make it back to this instance when they need to support fate done. That's another chance to get in.

That's the thought process of a typical Gaia player, more or less. There is an initial emotional reaction, followed by the quick realisation that crying over spilt milk does not help. It has already happened, take actions to mitigate your current situation. Now, back to your point, statless weapon. Look closer, is the player executing mechanics correctly and using appropriate logos actions? If so, then it isn't a cause for concern. The latter things are probably what matters more.

Your next point about videos, yes here in Gaia we watch guide videos too. They are seen as a tool that complements the macro. Let's say you've seen the video or the macro, then seen the other one. The order doesn't matter so much. Macro helps with quick memory recall, video helps visualisation. Both reinforce each other. Then there's writing. I mentioned they have a strong reading or writing culture. What do Gaia FFXIV players generally write about? Preparation for difficult content, sometimes involves taking that notebook beside their computer table and writing things down with a pen or pencil. They have seen the macro, watched the video on youtube or nico nico video. They write about their own understanding of the macro and video. They watch the video, some one talks to them about it, they remember a little. They see the macro, they have read it with their own eyes. They remember slightly more. Now, they put in the effort to physically write it, in their own words, what they understood. They remember even more of the strategy. So, not having gone into the fight yet, they have taken steps to reinforce their memory. A macro on it's own is a short few lines of text. A video is someone else's voice and gameplay. Both become so much more when you write your own feeling and understanding about it.

That's not where it ends though. I'll use my LS mate as an example. After writing, she notices that there's some similarities with other things she has written before. She flips back and recalls she is bad at handling sudden puddles, memories of moving too late for Susano Ex's raisen kaikyo and a few other things in that fight. She flips forward to her notes on the bosses in the arsenal. Analysing this, she notes that she will have more difficulty on Art and Ozma because she isn't so good at double dodging (move in to dodge one mechanic, then immediately have to move out far enough to dodge the second mechanic). Now, she highlights those mechanics as things she needs to pay special attention to during the fights. She doesn't do savage raids, extreme primals is the most difficult content that she normally does, and now she wants to do arsenal. Then she posts pictures of her notebook on her lodestone or twitter and comments about how hard she thinks it is going to be. Her thoughts and actions represent about half the PUGs I've met on Gaia.

The other half? They have read the macro beforehand, watched a video and will go into the fight and do their best. Hope something sticks in their brain from the macro and video. Things that the macro poster highlighted a bit more, will stick better in their brain. The rest? Depends on the individual player. They are the kind that learn by doing. They try, first two or three attempts turn out to be a disaster, but now they have seen the mechanics and tried to handle them. They grab a small scrap of paper, and scribble down where they messed up and use sticky tape to paste it next to their screen. Writing helps them too, though not in such a detailed manner. They take pictures of some delicious food on their computer table and all the scraps of paper pasted on the side of their monitor, all these goes on lodestone or twitter with comments on how delicious the food is and how it's going to fuel their next attempt at the content.

After a run, both groups ask themselves 3 things: (1) what went well? (2) what didn't go well? (3) what could I have done better? (Notice: "could I have done better", no mention of other players, it's all PUGs, you probably won't meet them again.)

That's how the reading and writing culture of Japan affects some of their gamers, and above descriptions? That's the average PUG player (yes even the non-JP too. When in Rome, do as the Romans do) from Gaia. Not some hardcore raider, and we make mistakes here and there, but we sure love to read and write (For non-JP, if you grew up in the 1970s or early 1980s I guess you might like it more than television)

So Kuroka, since people are kind of similar apart from cultural differences - are the PUGs similar in your data centre?

I heard that in the west, reading is associated more with studying and some see it as a forced thing. So especially for the younger generation, reading isn't particularly enjoyed. Never could confirm that point though.

[Kuroka]

Well, the thing about that macro is that it's for the entire arsenal.

I know that ofc, but i imagine its a lot longer when translated to english or even german, as your lanugage saves a lot of space....
Its been ages i saw that on our servers wich is actually sad, as its nice for randoms and newbies, or when you didnt do smt for ages.

As for reading, if you ever have the chance to take a bus or train in Japan, just look around during the long rides. You'll see folks, young and old pull out books, not just manga but novels, non-fiction books on astronomy, marine life, etc., paperbacks mostly. Not ebooks or electronic readers, physical books are more common. There's a strong reading and writing culture, people love to read. Reading pages and pages of text is associated with enjoyment - leisure reading. Reading is not associated with something boring or a chore.

I sadly dont think ill ever manage to visit you... but here its different, mostly ppl listen to music or stick to their phones playing stuff or watching smt - i even got coworkers watchin movies on netflix for hours xD

Reading here is... difficult? There are many who enjoy it, but i rarely ever saw anyone reading on a train or bus, you dont even see pll read newspapers.

It was better some years ago but now you cant even get manga easily around here, novels are rather rare, basically you have to read online or buy from amazon >_>

Many times back then when i linked written guides, or even refered to stuff ingame, ppl flat out said theyre too lazy to read, which is sad.
-Its part of why FFXIII is hated so much... ppl hated to have to read so much from the lore, though i liked it...

These people that I encountered are using the 405 physeos variant, which means although statless it has the massive +348 elemental bonus. As for annoyance, that's up to you.

Well that is smt totally different and i know of some cases who simply only ever used eureka or primal weapons due being lazy, not using any of the materia we get either...

That's the thought process of a typical Gaia player, more or less. There is an initial emotional reaction, followed by the quick realisation that crying over spilt milk does not help.

That is smt that would not work here. Do ppl on your side ragequit too? Like we tried BA with randoms and had about 2 parties for each side, our side was doing well but one of our healers, a sch was slow in healing, didt use some skills so the tank died twice, the other heal told him to get a grip as he cant heal us all alone and so all but me and 2-3 others died... we were too few and we knew, it was more "lets try for fun" but that still was... annoying. What was worse was the heal just disconected to not face the consequences of his mistake... which was funny as our timer was about to run out so we other didnt loose a level and I just ressed the others back at the camp xD

Its ok to make mistakes, but not to reflect on em and just leave is... low...

On our mindset there is no more choice, either you join a discord party or... well you wont clear, ive acepted that i wont...
Just like on several primals were it was the golden rule to have no double jobs, yet i farmed several jsut fine with 2-3 doubles and without need for a LB at all... just cause ppl desperately follow the meta, even if man dont actually can utilize the benefits.... i feel its a similiar problem.

A video is someone else's voice and gameplay. Both become so much more when you write your own feeling and understanding about it.

See thats similiar to my mindest, though i prefer to blindly smash the boss and reflect about it, to learn the fight, i smt watch a vid after some kills to confirm myself.

...the part about your LS mate sounds nice, we might have similar players but i never encountered one. Overall you seem to take all that way lighter and more like its a game then a job or smt... weird xD

No but really, idm wiping a lot, bt some ppl leave after a few small mistakes, even if you cleared the fight before. Like recently i was doing seiryu, we did a ton of dmg and it went super fast.... till one heal messed and all fell apart like a house of cards. I managed to not die too fast and ress the heals + a dps, so they continued till the lb was full and ressed us. we still cleared before the enrage despite ppl were dead for like almost a min. Mistakes happen and we rly did well, but still ppl just left.

On the other hand you got those rly terrible players, who kill the group multiple times, do close to 0 dmg yet try for hours and hours... not wondering why its soooo hard.

So Kuroka, since people are kind of similar apart from cultural differences - are the PUGs similar in your data centre?

Well i gave some of my examples above, but further we got the problem with the french - and ofc my german mates too, who have that huge language barrier, preventing them from talking, or even gettin help. I do see EU has a way harder time as most its players dont share their native language and that makes problems.... many different mindsets, i do see why we have such a hard time for setling for one strat. We just have it harder from the go...

But its complicated here, i got both, german players only having the J and E active and french players only having E and D active, its weird seeing this, i even heard they wanna avoind vertain kinds of ppl... xD

Its not that bad over all, just some things make it complicated... bad players wont get better from excluding them. Like ppl left Weeping city back then a lot, jsut cause they didnt wanna teach ppl ozma... the first few weeks we had frequently the timer run out on him. The more ppl you got, the harder it gets, even on mechanics youd often see ppl go "meh let someone else do it" or "nah i dont stack there 3 ppl will do" and wipe us with that.

Most got no time to waste and only want success, no matter who they leave behind...

I heard that in the west, reading is associated more with studying and some see it as a forced thing. So especially for the younger generation, reading isn't particularly enjoyed.

This id say is true, while especially here were we got many artists, fanfic writers or fantasy fans that loves such storys, most hate it...

You should have seen the gazes i got when reading several novels at work on my phone, some time ago....
-tbh, i dont read as much anymore as once i start i have to finish... i smt read manga or a novel till 3-4 am when i had to work the next day xD


Edit: sry this got longer then i though.... and later, sry for my typos^^"

[Mixt]

The whole "You are not allowed to do the content if you don't use Discord!" thing might have something to do with that.