Baldesion Arsenal Feedback

[Janhyua]

In theory, this already can happen. We went in as a group of 8, split 4 and 4 on the first bosses and got them to 50% before wiping to mechanics since we were new. The adds/bosses scale with the amount of people in there. We saw AV's HP jump up when our support group entered. The only issue is the 6 rooms before AV that would create the need to be a 24man minimum.

Good luck telling everyone else they can't come in if you wanted to test this though.



This is correct, although its bug related rather than mechanics. I'll add it to the OF though since it is a massive issue. I have also found myself completely losing target on the wyverns in AV when they disappear in the crowd.

that why i am asking for duty finder....

[Moshimoshikami]

Things to change

1. Change BA into 24 man raid instead and lower the difficulty
2. delete support fate

this allow player to want to farm frag can do so while leaving the premade alone

and also allow people to do BA anytime they want rather then murdering and cursing each other in the game

this is not content this is making chaos and toxicity the dev has failed to keep the peace on this one even if its the player fault but it is up to the dev to make sure thing like this does not happen in the first place....

The best way for protection is prevention

Totally agree with that. If the content requires a 56 men discord to join in, it's a failure. They should nerf it so anyone can enjoy it.

And btw, it was not designed for 56 premade, it was designed to play with the people you meet in the instance.
You are not expected to massively jump from instance to instance to form a 56 players team.
In my eyes those kills are not even legit because they bypass the greatest difficulty of BA...

[Celenia]

In my eyes those kills are not even legit because they bypass the greatest difficulty of BA...

The greatest of what ? When you can hardly go in. This will not be an issue if EVERYONE in hydatos can go in. 144 man can go in. But nope, only 35% of you can get in and enjoy the content. While we are outside eating dirt and become slave of support fate (without significant reward).

[Moshimoshikami]

The greatest of what ? When you can hardly go in. This will not be an issue if EVERYONE in hydatos can go in. 144 man can go in. But nope, only 35% of you can get in and enjoy the content. While we are outside eating dirt and become slave of support fate (without significant reward).

Well I think we share the same opinion. I was not able to get in either because want to play the content the way it was intended to be played.

Imo, the ovni fate should grant randomly access to BA like the bunny fate. this would work in 2 steps.
Players get either a blue or a red key. As many blue keys are distributed as the number of portals. The other disttributed keys are red.
1. If someone get a blue key he/she can enter the portal ASAP. No fight because there are as many blue keys as portals.
2. If someone get a red key, he/she has to wait 4min until portals stabilize and turn red.

[Acesfool]

I can honestly say I already dread going into Hydatos because of the BA situation. For starters, I will likely never get to run BA. I'm a 24 hour caretaker for a family member and simply cannot set aside 3 hours for a dungeon. That's nobody's problem but my own. But when i go to Hydatos and after Onvi is killed the chat battle begins. Most of the time the premade group is polite. They ask that nobody snipe the portals please. But there's that little suggestion that if you do enter a portal they will consider it sniping. Within a few seconds it turns into a shouting match between the premade group and regular players in the instance. There's always someone in the premade who says they'll report anyone who takes a portal. Then the others say you can't report me for playing the game. And on and on it goes.

By the time the support fate pops a good portion of the players are saying they won't do it because they want the premade to fail. Although I question how many actually follow through with that threat because there is always a very large crowd at the fate. But once it's over the whole debate about who has rights to the portals starts all over. That's usually when I get tired of it and leave.

[KageTokage]

Did my first attempt at Ozma today with a clear/farm group. Wiped at 15% with time to spare before enrage because acceleration bombs are hard.

The fight really isn't that bad overall, but having a mechanic that punishes everybody for one person's mistake is pretty awful with so many players involved and is probably the biggest barrier to clears overall because it often coincides with AoE damage that can potentially cause a wipe if the healers don't top everyone off immediately.

[Kuroka]

IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.

[Nariel]

IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.

So true, where is the fun of a fight you don't have to analyse why and how you get your ass handed to yourself. A video spoil everything the fight have to offer, you sure get your win faster but you won't get better at the game if you have to play with your trainning wheel for ever.

[Kuroka]

So true, where is the fun of a fight you don't have to analyse why and how you get your ass handed to yourself. A video spoil everything the fight have to offer, you sure get your win faster but you won't get better at the game if you have to play with your trainning wheel for ever.

Dont get me wrong i rly do see why it sucks to die there... but... the one time i actually used guides for primals was... a letdown, it helps me like 0 and it takes ALL the fun, its cheating and the victory feels not earned....


the system just sucks and at least the delevel gotte be removed - but they can keep the permadeath.


And ppl dont get that it sadly takes a permade party as else you wont get HALF the needed players, its less about leeching then the fact that you just dont get the ppl. Its the same on prefarming stuff... >_>