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    I thought that the blue mage was touted as a single player experience? Am I remembering something wrong?
    It was touted as such, you're not remembering anything wrong.


    • Designed for solo play.
    • Not suited for parties.
    • Literally requires parties in order to get abilities for its job quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    It was touted as such, you're not remembering anything wrong.


    • Designed for solo play.
    • Not suited for parties.
    • Literally requires parties in order to get abilities for its job quests.
    BLu has always been like this. It's literally a collection of funny, worthless, broken, and a bit of everything. It's also completely worthless until you aquire the more powerful abilities (some we don't have yet, and some negated by the design of FF14 to accommodate the lowest player skill levels). and it lacks the specializations needed to perform specialized roles properly. Instead it learns a select set of overpowered spells that transform the job into a literal one-man-army. And, every bit of that is a feature and not a bug.

    The current implementation is sadly lacking the game-breaking part, so it just lacks the other half of its appeal. TLDR, if players cannot turn Gilgamesh into a frog during "a battle on the big bridge": its literally has only half of its appeal, and shows Yoshi-P's reluctance to make a job that completely ingores party structure and turn serious content into a Montey Python sketch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    BLu has always been like this. It's literally a collection of funny, worthless, broken, and a bit of everything. It's also completely worthless until you aquire the more powerful abilities (some we don't have yet, and some negated by the design of FF14 to accommodate the lowest player skill levels). and it lacks the specializations needed to perform specialized roles properly. Instead it learns a select set of overpowered spells that transform the job into a literal one-man-army. And, every bit of that is a feature and not a bug.

    The current implementation is sadly lacking the game-breaking part, so it just lacks the other half of its appeal. TLDR, if players cannot turn Gilgamesh into a frog during "a battle on the big bridge": its literally has only half of its appeal, and shows Yoshi-P's reluctance to make a job that completely ingores party structure and turn serious content into a Montey Python sketch.
    Here's something I said in another thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    BLU:

    FFV: Caster Support God in end game, in prog of the game learns powerful spells early (Aero) and generally learns a good range of damaging magic (As well as some niche skills)
    FFVI: Learned some weird spells, and some other powerful skills,
    FFVII: Enemy skill was great, powerful magic which wasn't necessarily better than regular magic, but wasn't worse either, it also didn't alter your stats like other materia
    FFVIII: Not played it so can't judge its usefulness
    FFIX: Quina was great, most of the stuff was percentage based but still
    FFX: Kimari was Trash Moving on
    FFXI: Not played it but heard it was good and strong in that one

    Could go on for other BLU's but you get my point, they of course did get some useless skills, but so do black and white mages.
    BLU has not "Always been like this", its been a different caster but not necessarily this wacky nut case job, or a one man army. I've since played 8 and blue magic is a limit break in that game, so it is quite powerful, much like other limit breaks are. Some of the other BLU's I didn't mention, such as their bravely default iterations function as a role in the party much like any other class too, they just learn skills differently. Blu certainly did have some situations where it could do some stupid things to hard enemies, but so could normal jobs as well. Blu always had a spot IN the party, whether it was supporting it like 5, or dishing out damage like in 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Here's something I said in another thread:


    BLU has not "Always been like this", its been a different caster but not necessarily this wacky nut case job, or a one man army. I've since played 8 and blue magic is a limit break in that game, so it is quite powerful, much like other limit breaks are. Some of the other BLU's I didn't mention, such as their bravely default iterations function as a role in the party much like any other class too, they just learn skills differently. Blu certainly did have some situations where it could do some stupid things to hard enemies, but so could normal jobs as well. Blu always had a spot IN the party, whether it was supporting it like 5, or dishing out damage like in 7
    It's totes the majority my experience with it though. It's always like it was just either way too useful not to have or really broken (Quinna).
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