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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    If you open a server (or really, any space on the internet as history has shown) where the big draw is "You can say whatever you want without being punished!", then you're eventually going to see that place devolve into only having the worst, most insufferable kind of people that aren't welcome anywhere else.
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this? I've heard people that drop from matches or get reported for toxicity in certain games get put into their own queues with other players like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this?
    No idea, I never tried any MOBA.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this? I've heard people that drop from matches or get reported for toxicity in certain games get put into their own queues with other players like that.
    To answer this question, I can't speak for other MOBAs but, yes. Dota 2 does this.

    If you are reported and found at fault for what you were reported for (Bad behavior, match throwing, match fixing, list goes on.) or you've abandoned multiple matches in a row. At first you may receive a warning. But continue that stuff and you are put in the jail pool where you are only allowed to match with and against other inmates. In order to be released, you have to complete a certain number of matches in that pool. You can't just wait a timer out, you MUST complete those matches. The number of matches is determined by how much of a repeat offender you are, starting at 10 last time I was there. But if you are a serial visitor of the jail pool, they might just move to temp banning you. I also believe if you break rules again while in the pool, you get into even bigger trouble and face a perma ban even, I'm unclear there, I've only been in the jail pool once or twice and I stayed on my best behavior during those times.

    Though, things may have changed, I haven't played Dota 2 in earnest in a couple years, so idk if they changed that up recently but when I 'retired' from the game, that was very much how punishment was handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    To answer this question, I can't speak for other MOBAs but, yes. Dota 2 does this.

    If you are reported and found at fault for what you were reported for (Bad behavior, match throwing, match fixing, list goes on.) or you've abandoned multiple matches in a row.
    My husband tried playing LoL once. After 3 matches he was banned for playing badly, when he was only playing badly because he was completely new to the game XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    My husband tried playing LoL once. After 3 matches he was banned for playing badly, when he was only playing badly because he was completely new to the game XD
    Pretty impressive. What kind of trash was he spewing to earn that ban after just 3 games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    I would call this a unhealthy environment to play in. If you need stuff like that use discord and invite only people who tick the same way...
    Yeah, a server like this sounds like a lawsuit or something just waiting to happen...if ya need a space where ya feel safe to speak your mind folks, discord server. Super simple.

    Keep in mind, I'm agreeing with Ilan. Just clarifying.

    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    My husband tried playing LoL once. After 3 matches he was banned for playing badly, when he was only playing badly because he was completely new to the game XD
    And here I thought Dota 2 had a high bar of entry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Yeah, a server like this sounds like a lawsuit or something just waiting to happen...if ya need a space where ya feel safe to speak your mind folks, discord server. Super simple.

    Keep in mind, I'm agreeing with Ilan. Just clarifying.
    Yeah a lawsuit would come pretty fast from the people that wanted a server like that and then get roasted ingame and can't handle it.



    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    And here I thought Dota 2 had a high bar of entry...
    To get banned in LoL after just 3 games, which would've been games against bots, requires more than just playing bad. There are so many levelbots in this game that are literaly just running it down and they are not getting banned that quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    if i remember correctly the Xbox did this with some games but the environment they went to just got worse and worse and after a while players who were thrown in there for minor things were basically flung into a very 'toxic' environment with the way the world is now and how people act shoving the worst types of people to there own server would only create an echo chamber of there ideas rather then have them learn that what they did is wrong,

    to reply to the op, you have a freedom of speech in the game anyway, you agreed not to bring up specific subjects when you play the game (or in game), the things banned from you saying besides the common sense things (such as screaming at people with insults) are just small things that don't tend to really come up in conversation, (i saw someone saying swearing, swearing has a profanity filter in this game, so you can swear just not work around the filter or be excessive,)

    if those subjects are what you truly want to talk about then i say make a discord or Skype group, its free to do so. because if you can't say it on those then you shouldn't say it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    Fun Fact - EverQuest 2 has had something like this in play for years now. Drunder server. Instead of perma banning an account, they were "Drundered" and all of their toons were moved there, and all future toons as well. No rules - you could openly bot, swear, hack, etc, whatever you wanted. But - there was zero GM assistance of any kind. You could continue to play and give them money, but if you ever had something go wrong -- too bad. That includes a stuck character. Stuck in an infinite loop and can't move? Too bad. Someone scammed you? Too bad. Someone threatened IRL bodily harm? Too bad. Someone found a way to hack the broker and stole your items? Too bad. 100% on your own permanently.
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