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    ...so anyways...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.
    What is your idea of a server of 'freedom'? Like, if it's just about the things in this post, it's really not much different from what we already have, minus the parser talk, which is a necessary evil for the time being. Like, what else did you have in mind?
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    I'd be with profanity.

    If I had to make a broad statement. I'm guessing the end-goal of the OP is a free-speech server that meant you could talk about anything that wasn't strictly under the authority of the government. So no threats/slander/libel stuff. But probably green light anything else. Basically anything that's already legal to say. Just keep it within the nations laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Acturally doing a server like this is a good idea they could add more adult mode into game settings like gore mode damn i want see blood guts every were ... along with smoking etc
    That’s not how a content rating system works. If that content is anywhere in the game, the whole game gets the higher rating (which the writers are being very careful to avoid as it is). The servers don’t get to set special exemptions for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Acturally doing a server like this is a good idea they could add more adult mode into game settings like gore mode damn i want see blood guts every were ... along with smoking etc
    They can't.
    This game is rated for 16 on most of the world in some exceptions even for 12.
    Also rating a game includes all actual content in the game.
    Adding an optional "gore mode" would most likely take the rating to 18 or 21 depending on the country and rating system and would exclude a big part of the possible consumers.
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    If you can't see how this would be a bad idea, let me introduce you to the biker bar analogy.

    Let's say you own a bar. Business is good, you get a variety of customers, but they're all pretty average people who are just there to drink and chill. Then, one day, a gang of bikers shows up to your bar, and starts getting rowdy and unpleasant. They pay for their drinks just like everyone else, but eventually, their presence starts annoying the regular patrons, and over time, more of them stop showing up. You essentially have two choices as the bar owner, now: You either kick out the biker gang and resume business as usual, or you accept that you run a biker bar, because those are the only people who go there now.

    If you open a server (or really, any space on the internet as history has shown) where the big draw is "You can say whatever you want without being punished!", then you're eventually going to see that place devolve into only having the worst, most insufferable kind of people that aren't welcome anywhere else. Such a server would get incredibly toxic, and if you let it fester, you'd quickly start to see people from that server become a real nuisance in any cross-server content.
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    And this right HERE is an example of people freaking out WAY too much over changes that since they been made have done NOTHING to the over all game or life. Can we PLEASE stop acting like the SJWs people are so scared of? Yeah I said it. " OMG we're all doom and Eggman's gonna turn us into robots that sonic will spin dash into the moon. MY LIFE" All jokes aside this is an over reaction that's not needed. Seriously. Just play the game as you were and you'll be fine. Unless you were already toxic to begin with, then maybe the issue isn't with the rules and maybe the issue is with YOU.
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    Last edited by Insertcoins; 02-16-2019 at 02:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    join a discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.
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    I really like this idea actually.
    It means we can lump all the most toxic players all on one server and not have to deal with them anymore.
    I say do it.
    On a side note i have nothing against free speech or parsing but when you're going out of your way to flame players over dps numbers and recorded parses you are taking the game way way too seriously especially when most the content can be completed with below average dps.
    If people had kept parsing abuse to just savage and not casual content like non savage raids,ex trials,24 man roulettes etc SE might have been more inclined to be more lenient towards parse talk.
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    Last edited by Metalwrath; 02-15-2019 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    If you open a server (or really, any space on the internet as history has shown) where the big draw is "You can say whatever you want without being punished!", then you're eventually going to see that place devolve into only having the worst, most insufferable kind of people that aren't welcome anywhere else.
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
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