Server of Freedom

[Metalwrath]

We had this. What we have now, just shows that too many players in this game are incapable of handling this freedom responsibly. SE didn't just add the new restrictions willy-nilly. They added them, because actual player actions displayed their necessity.

That said, take these new "restrictions" with a grain of salt. I don't anticipate any changes in the number of bans and punishments. GMs will continue to act as they always have acted. The new text in the TOS is just for covering their butts, and giving belligerent players less room to whine when they're called out on their BS.

I'm tickled by the concept of a "toxic player penitentiary", I must admit!

If anything i think the community has taken it less serious than before.That seems to be the case from what ive seen.Since the update there has been non stop trolling and joking in chat like 'reported for insert random joke'

[DeaconMoore]

People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.

Whatcha talking about? Every server is a freedom of speech server. The government plays zero role in the rules and regs of this private platform.

[Penthea]

People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.

So you're literally asking for a server where people can't get in trouble no matter what they say? This makes me wonder what awful things you have to say if you feel the need for a server like that.

Also the lack of insults would be the responsibility of the players, not SE. It's not as if SE force players to insult one another.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I really don't want to think about a server dedicated wholly to indulging the online disinhibition effect.

[Colino]

Why would any game company operating an MMO open a massive can of worms like that? They wouldn't benefit from it in the slightest.

[Maero]

Idk i hear some profanity and homophobic talk from time to time on my server. Whether these people get banned, i do not know

[Jojoya]

Idk i hear some profanity and homophobic talk from time to time on my server. Whether these people get banned, i do not know

Dpeends on whether they get reported. I would imagine if it's a first report, they get a basic warning unless extreme language was used. Bans generally are for repeat violators.

[Violet_Galaxy]

No. "Freedom of speech" does not equate to "Freedom from consequences". It's actually quite shocking and sad that your average person hollering about "hur dur what happened to free speech?" doesn't even know what it entails. Let's also remember that we are on SE's servers (private property if you will) and they easily can show anyone the door.

[Colino]

No. "Freedom of speech" does not equate to "Freedom from consequences". It's actually quite shocking and sad that your average person hollering about "hur dur what happened to free speech?" doesn't even know what it entails. Let's also remember that we are on SE's servers (private property if you will) and they easily can show anyone the door.

Regardless freedom of speech does not apply to any online game (or even online service) because you are abiding by terms of service, not constitutaional law. Those providing the service have the right to exclude you for any reason and literally create any rules they like.

[Melichoir]

No. "Freedom of speech" does not equate to "Freedom from consequences"...

Just for hte sake of discussion, saying "Freedom of Speech doesnt mean you haev freedom from consequences" is a meaningless statement. Everything you do has a 'consequence'. Freedom to turn on the light in your room has the consequence that your room will be lit up and youll be using electricity. Its a meaningless statement to say when discussing freedom of speech and is often used as a dismissal tactic rather than address the core of the point - namely being able to speak your mind and having people self determine what to do rather than having a system crack down on your expression.

So this would be a person saying "Hur Dur The moon is made of cheese" and people on an individual level deciding that they dont have to listen to you (so they block you), dont care (take no action), or engage with you to discuss the statement. What people dont want is when someoen says "Hur Dur the moon is made of cheese" for another person to say "I should not even have to bother hearing that blasphemy. GMs punish this heathen!" which results in said person being silenced/banned.

There is more distinction and nuance but thats the over/under. But yeah saying "no freedom of consequences" is moot. Everyone knows theres going to be some kind of consequence. Its just a matter of what that is and who it infringes on.

Now back to whatever were talking about again.