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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this? I've heard people that drop from matches or get reported for toxicity in certain games get put into their own queues with other players like that.
    To answer this question, I can't speak for other MOBAs but, yes. Dota 2 does this.

    If you are reported and found at fault for what you were reported for (Bad behavior, match throwing, match fixing, list goes on.) or you've abandoned multiple matches in a row. At first you may receive a warning. But continue that stuff and you are put in the jail pool where you are only allowed to match with and against other inmates. In order to be released, you have to complete a certain number of matches in that pool. You can't just wait a timer out, you MUST complete those matches. The number of matches is determined by how much of a repeat offender you are, starting at 10 last time I was there. But if you are a serial visitor of the jail pool, they might just move to temp banning you. I also believe if you break rules again while in the pool, you get into even bigger trouble and face a perma ban even, I'm unclear there, I've only been in the jail pool once or twice and I stayed on my best behavior during those times.

    Though, things may have changed, I haven't played Dota 2 in earnest in a couple years, so idk if they changed that up recently but when I 'retired' from the game, that was very much how punishment was handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    To answer this question, I can't speak for other MOBAs but, yes. Dota 2 does this.

    If you are reported and found at fault for what you were reported for (Bad behavior, match throwing, match fixing, list goes on.) or you've abandoned multiple matches in a row.
    My husband tried playing LoL once. After 3 matches he was banned for playing badly, when he was only playing badly because he was completely new to the game XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    if i remember correctly the Xbox did this with some games but the environment they went to just got worse and worse and after a while players who were thrown in there for minor things were basically flung into a very 'toxic' environment with the way the world is now and how people act shoving the worst types of people to there own server would only create an echo chamber of there ideas rather then have them learn that what they did is wrong,

    to reply to the op, you have a freedom of speech in the game anyway, you agreed not to bring up specific subjects when you play the game (or in game), the things banned from you saying besides the common sense things (such as screaming at people with insults) are just small things that don't tend to really come up in conversation, (i saw someone saying swearing, swearing has a profanity filter in this game, so you can swear just not work around the filter or be excessive,)

    if those subjects are what you truly want to talk about then i say make a discord or Skype group, its free to do so. because if you can't say it on those then you shouldn't say it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    Fun Fact - EverQuest 2 has had something like this in play for years now. Drunder server. Instead of perma banning an account, they were "Drundered" and all of their toons were moved there, and all future toons as well. No rules - you could openly bot, swear, hack, etc, whatever you wanted. But - there was zero GM assistance of any kind. You could continue to play and give them money, but if you ever had something go wrong -- too bad. That includes a stuck character. Stuck in an infinite loop and can't move? Too bad. Someone scammed you? Too bad. Someone threatened IRL bodily harm? Too bad. Someone found a way to hack the broker and stole your items? Too bad. 100% on your own permanently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    So kinda like how people who keep causing mayhem in GTA all get lumped together?
    (My brother was one of these, and he stopped playing the game because he didn't like everyone else there XD).

    Where I am from, crude language is often used in everyday conversation, so I can see how a freedom server can have some appeal.
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    And this right HERE is an example of people freaking out WAY too much over changes that since they been made have done NOTHING to the over all game or life. Can we PLEASE stop acting like the SJWs people are so scared of? Yeah I said it. " OMG we're all doom and Eggman's gonna turn us into robots that sonic will spin dash into the moon. MY LIFE" All jokes aside this is an over reaction that's not needed. Seriously. Just play the game as you were and you'll be fine. Unless you were already toxic to begin with, then maybe the issue isn't with the rules and maybe the issue is with YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    join a discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.
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    I really like this idea actually.
    It means we can lump all the most toxic players all on one server and not have to deal with them anymore.
    I say do it.
    On a side note i have nothing against free speech or parsing but when you're going out of your way to flame players over dps numbers and recorded parses you are taking the game way way too seriously especially when most the content can be completed with below average dps.
    If people had kept parsing abuse to just savage and not casual content like non savage raids,ex trials,24 man roulettes etc SE might have been more inclined to be more lenient towards parse talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.
    We had this. What we have now, just shows that too many players in this game are incapable of handling this freedom responsibly. SE didn't just add the new restrictions willy-nilly. They added them, because actual player actions displayed their necessity.

    That said, take these new "restrictions" with a grain of salt. I don't anticipate any changes in the number of bans and punishments. GMs will continue to act as they always have acted. The new text in the TOS is just for covering their butts, and giving belligerent players less room to whine when they're called out on their BS.

    I'm tickled by the concept of a "toxic player penitentiary", I must admit!
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