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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    As in everything goes you can sware, joke about anything have your free view points without snitchs or adult topics without a worry. Simple 2 understand

    The only things that would be bannable on it would be
    Rmt, the dc thing the purposely trolling fights and threats

    Everything else goes and if a person dislikes they can blacklist

    But i wouldn't call it freedom server id call it ntfs server were only 18 year olds are older can get in
    I would call this a unhealthy environment to play in. If you need stuff like that use discord and invite only people who tick the same way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of why a 'server of freedom' is a bad idea. Make a discord server if that's what you want - no need to make an entirely new game server that is, for all intents and purposes, free from the ToS, or at the very least, less likely to draw red flags. You already can swear - you just can't go around dropping f-bombs and cursing at everyone most/all the time. I have never once been the subject of a report, nor have anybody that I know in-game for swearing, having appropriate adult conversations (clearly, you haven't seen how AFKers in Anemos spent their times during initial release).

    While I think that the ToS is overreaching and pushing towards a 'protect feelings' mentally, this right here is just another overblown reaction to something that probably won't affect players that don't act like raging jackasses in game.

    (Fun fact: the things you are talking about already happen on multiple novice networks, and the ToS didn't curb much of anything, so yeah...pointless).
    Acturally doing a server like this is a good idea they could add more adult mode into game settings like gore mode damn i want see blood guts every were ... along with smoking etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Acturally doing a server like this is a good idea they could add more adult mode into game settings like gore mode damn i want see blood guts every were ... along with smoking etc
    That’s not how a content rating system works. If that content is anywhere in the game, the whole game gets the higher rating (which the writers are being very careful to avoid as it is). The servers don’t get to set special exemptions for themselves.
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Acturally doing a server like this is a good idea they could add more adult mode into game settings like gore mode damn i want see blood guts every were ... along with smoking etc
    They can't.
    This game is rated for 16 on most of the world in some exceptions even for 12.
    Also rating a game includes all actual content in the game.
    Adding an optional "gore mode" would most likely take the rating to 18 or 21 depending on the country and rating system and would exclude a big part of the possible consumers.
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    ...so anyways...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    People were asking for rp server, so why not freedom of speech?

    I mean, a server where we could freely speak about parse, have some constructive critic without getting insult, or with the new TOS, get ban.

    Just an idea,tell me the pro and cons.
    What is your idea of a server of 'freedom'? Like, if it's just about the things in this post, it's really not much different from what we already have, minus the parser talk, which is a necessary evil for the time being. Like, what else did you have in mind?
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    Last edited by KaivaC; 02-15-2019 at 07:24 PM.

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    I'd be with profanity.

    If I had to make a broad statement. I'm guessing the end-goal of the OP is a free-speech server that meant you could talk about anything that wasn't strictly under the authority of the government. So no threats/slander/libel stuff. But probably green light anything else. Basically anything that's already legal to say. Just keep it within the nations laws.
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    If you can't see how this would be a bad idea, let me introduce you to the biker bar analogy.

    Let's say you own a bar. Business is good, you get a variety of customers, but they're all pretty average people who are just there to drink and chill. Then, one day, a gang of bikers shows up to your bar, and starts getting rowdy and unpleasant. They pay for their drinks just like everyone else, but eventually, their presence starts annoying the regular patrons, and over time, more of them stop showing up. You essentially have two choices as the bar owner, now: You either kick out the biker gang and resume business as usual, or you accept that you run a biker bar, because those are the only people who go there now.

    If you open a server (or really, any space on the internet as history has shown) where the big draw is "You can say whatever you want without being punished!", then you're eventually going to see that place devolve into only having the worst, most insufferable kind of people that aren't welcome anywhere else. Such a server would get incredibly toxic, and if you let it fester, you'd quickly start to see people from that server become a real nuisance in any cross-server content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    If you open a server (or really, any space on the internet as history has shown) where the big draw is "You can say whatever you want without being punished!", then you're eventually going to see that place devolve into only having the worst, most insufferable kind of people that aren't welcome anywhere else.
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, every player banned for harassent gets thrown there without the option to change server. And you put that server on its own datacenter so that it can't participate in any cross activities. Basically, this would create the first MMO penitentiary.
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this? I've heard people that drop from matches or get reported for toxicity in certain games get put into their own queues with other players like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briarth0rn View Post
    I don't play them so I'm not sure, but don't some MOBAs already do this?
    No idea, I never tried any MOBA.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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