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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    If they're making viera all-female and this new Hrothgar all-male, I am fine with that since it's not as if the gender ratio has been made lopsided.
    The issue is
    Male race big strong and beastly
    Female race petite and pretty
    Bit generic some would say sexist and somewhat unfair to those who would want beastly females or there bishonin males

    And obviously male viera is gonna be the main source of that thread since they only showed females
    And of course there will be alot of likes on male viera post
    Alot do want them
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    Hrothgar sounds like a placeholder development name. It doesn't "feel" like it belongs with the other races, especially since it carries real world connotations with it.
    Though because of that I wonder if they're based on Scandinavian history, with braided hair and vikings and all that jazz.

    A lion with braided hair does sound familiar though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    A lion with braided hair does sound familiar though.
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    Don't get me wrong I think ronso are really cool. I always wished that SE explored their lore more in the FFX games. However they are essentially cat people and we already have that. I don't fancy the idea of having the cute cats and the bad ass cats. I'd rather we get a race based on a different animal so that all the races can stand on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Don't get me wrong I think ronso are really cool. I always wished that SE explored their lore more in the FFX games. However they are essentially cat people and we already have that. I don't fancy the idea of having the cute cats and the bad ass cats. I'd rather we get a race based on a different animal so that all the races can stand on their own.
    To be honest, since so many players liked Lupin perhaps the Hrothgar will borrow traits from both wolves and lions? Perhaps they will be like Miquote in that they can select between a more canine and feline subrace? I don't think that in FFXIV they'll come with horns directly protruding from their foreheads though, since that would render some horns for Summoner and the PVP one for Bard unwearable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Don't get me wrong I think ronso are really cool. I always wished that SE explored their lore more in the FFX games. However they are essentially cat people and we already have that. I don't fancy the idea of having the cute cats and the bad ass cats. I'd rather we get a race based on a different animal so that all the races can stand on their own.
    I will concede that I am a little, well, disappointed if the devs are double-downing on yet another feline race for XIV. Whatever their reasoning would end up being, I'd like to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Hrothgar sounds like a placeholder development name. It doesn't "feel" like it belongs with the other races, especially since it carries real world connotations with it.
    Though because of that I wonder if they're based on Scandinavian history, with braided hair and vikings and all that jazz.

    A lion with braided hair does sound familiar though.
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    In the Danish version of the myth, his name is Roe instead. That bridge was crossed a while ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Hrothgar sounds like a placeholder development name. It doesn't "feel" like it belongs with the other races, especially since it carries real world connotations with it.
    On a curious note regarding that reference, I did notice this line in the section on the name origin:

    The form Hrōðgār is thought to have derived from the proto-Norse *Hrōþigaizaz[3] "famous spear", i.e. Roger.
    ...which at the time just sent me thinking how odd name variants can be - "Roger" doesn't remotely conjure up the fierce Viking image that "Hrothgar" does.

    But then my mind was drifting somewhere around that thought and it occurred to me: what's the one fictional character I know named Roger? - which is, as coincidence might have it, one that brings us right back to male rabbits.


    The separate listing to Viera and other descriptive quote make it unlikely to be deliberate, but it's still rather curious.
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    Correct me if I am wrong here but didn't the devs state at one time that the racial choices for our character would always be Human-like, particularly when it came to the face? And the reason for this was that the conflict between the Races of Man and the Beast Tribes is a major plot point in the game? That Miqo'te, Au Ra and Viera show how far they would go in giving us a player race with bestial features? Wouldn't that leave the Ronso out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Don't get me wrong I think ronso are really cool. I always wished that SE explored their lore more in the FFX games. However they are essentially cat people and we already have that. I don't fancy the idea of having the cute cats and the bad ass cats. I'd rather we get a race based on a different animal so that all the races can stand on their own.
    I agree there could be something more "unique" but at the same time I'd totally switch my race to Ronso if that was a thing and I've been the same race .. and look since FFXIV beta (technically the beta was on another account but w.e I've never changed me looks).

    Also strictly imo, Ronso > Miqote.

    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    To be honest, since so many players liked Lupin perhaps the Hrothgar will borrow traits from both wolves and lions? Perhaps they will be like Miquote in that they can select between a more canine and feline subrace? I don't think that in FFXIV they'll come with horns directly protruding from their foreheads though, since that would render some horns for Summoner and the PVP one for Bard unwearable.
    Yeah I'm doubting the horn as well but I'd take it if it was there, I like it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong here but didn't the devs state at one time that the racial choices for our character would always be Human-like, particularly when it came to the face? And the reason for this was that the conflict between the Races of Man and the Beast Tribes is a major plot point in the game? That Miqo'te, Au Ra and Viera show how far they would go in giving us a player race with bestial features? Wouldn't that leave the Ronso out?
    In the other thread we thought that it might being a bit like Pantera/Lupis from BLESS:


    Which would give it a bit of a Miqote vibe, but imo the above > miqote as well so .. eh lol. Not trying to knock people who like miqote but I've never had a desire to be them, but I would be the Pantera or Ronso.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post

    So, par for the course because that's Au ra in a nutshell? And if the content model is anything to go by, they don't like "mixing it up and trying anything new" which I thought a lot of people were fine with? /s
    Despite the size difference au ra they are still the same race
    Males are not beastly in the slightest
    Female and male horns tails and scales are similar
    They are not two completely different looking beings like a rabbit and a lion that share no relation.

    And male au ra are pretty excuse you.

    I believe this is no different then how many healers feel about there gear being stuck with robes
    Its a trope that needs to end like gender locking races
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