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    roulette noun
    rou·​lette | \ rü-ˈlet
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    Definition of roulette

    (Entry 1 of 2)
    1a : a gambling game in which players bet on which compartment of a revolving wheel a small ball will come to rest in
    b : something involving a high degree of chance and unpredictability
    2a : any of various toothed wheels or disks (as for producing rows of dots on engraved plates or for making short consecutive incisions in paper to facilitate subsequent division)
    b : tiny slits between rows of stamps in a sheet that are made by a roulette and serve as an aid in separation — compare perforation

    I feel like this is a troll thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    roulette noun
    rou·​lette | \ rü-ˈlet
    \
    Definition of roulette

    (Entry 1 of 2)
    1a : a gambling game in which players bet on which compartment of a revolving wheel a small ball will come to rest in
    b : something involving a high degree of chance and unpredictability
    2a : any of various toothed wheels or disks (as for producing rows of dots on engraved plates or for making short consecutive incisions in paper to facilitate subsequent division)
    b : tiny slits between rows of stamps in a sheet that are made by a roulette and serve as an aid in separation — compare perforation

    I feel like this is a troll thread.
    Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol
    What people have been trying to tell you is that it is infact not a better way - it is a more convient way for you, but that doesnt mean it is an overall better way for the game. Which it isnt. It would make matchmaking more difficult and lead to (even) longer waittimes specially for dps - the very thing the roulettes are supposed to help with. Considering that certain dungeons are universally hated - like Aurum Vale, but probably also DD and Toto-Rak... oh and you're not the only person who'd rather not see the early dungeons again - the wait for those would increase even further. Given that some of those are involved in progressing the mainquest that would be an overall bad thing for the game.

    Stop being selfish - you're being reward for spending time in a dungeon that you didnt pick, but others did. There are alternative ways to gain exp and tomestones - they're a little less convient than roulettes, maybe, but there is your choice of inconvenience: The chance to get a dungeon you dont like... or a less effcient way to get your exp/tomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    What people have been trying to tell you is that it is infact not a better way - it is a more convient way for you, but that doesnt mean it is an overall better way for the game. Which it isnt. It would make matchmaking more difficult and lead to (even) longer waittimes specially for dps - the very thing the roulettes are supposed to help with. Considering that certain dungeons are universally hated - like Aurum Vale, but probably also DD and Toto-Rak... oh and you're not the only person who'd rather not see the early dungeons again - the wait for those would increase even further. Given that some of those are involved in progressing the mainquest that would be an overall bad thing for the game.

    Stop being selfish - you're being reward for spending time in a dungeon that you didnt pick, but others did. There are alternative ways to gain exp and tomestones - they're a little less convient than roulettes, maybe, but there is your choice of inconvenience: The chance to get a dungeon you dont like... or a less effcient way to get your exp/tomes.
    Okay i get it you dont like it.. its still my personal opinion but w/e also its not selfish lol i run av,dd for fun and toto is meha don't rlly hate it.. the only 3 i hate are the first 3 because many jobs have no rotation there lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Okay i get it you dont like it.. its still my personal opinion but w/e also its not selfish lol i run av,dd for fun and toto is meha don't rlly hate it.. the only 3 i hate are the first 3 because many jobs have no rotation there lol
    It is selfish though - no matter how much you like AV or how often you run it for fun, you clearly missed the point there. Those dungeons I mentioned were examples, that you happen to like them - good for you.

    That doesnt change the fact that your proposed change would benefit one person while inconveniencing three other people (who now have to wait in the queue lonegr) and while putting more load on the system, that now not only needs to check your job and your level, but also wether or not the dungeon it could put you into right now is on your blacklist.

    And trust me, I get not wanting to do the first three dungeons again, because it is indeed boring to play without your full rotation - but to me excluding Sastasha is even worse than excluding Aurum Vale, because excluding Sastasha means people dont get to do their very first dungeon and dont get to progress with their mainquest (and might rightfully quit the game over it right there). I know very well that you dont always end up with someone totally new to the game when the roulette puts you in Sastasha. But thats an important reason we have the roulette: That it can put us there, when needed.
    Thats what your reward is for - to do something that you might not like, but that benefits other people. Something that benefits other people in the way they need right now, not in the way you'd be willing to offer yourself - and that might very well be Sastasha. Dont wanna do that? Dont get the reward. Fair and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    It is selfish though - no matter how much you like AV or how often you run it for fun, you clearly missed the point there. Those dungeons I mentioned were examples, that you happen to like them - good for you.

    That doesnt change the fact that your proposed change would benefit one person while inconveniencing three other people (who now have to wait in the queue lonegr) and while putting more load on the system, that now not only needs to check your job and your level, but also wether or not the dungeon it could put you into right now is on your blacklist.

    And trust me, I get not wanting to do the first three dungeons again, because it is indeed boring to play without your full rotation - but to me excluding Sastasha is even worse than excluding Aurum Vale, because excluding Sastasha means people dont get to do their very first dungeon and dont get to progress with their mainquest (and might rightfully quit the game over it right there). I know very well that you dont always end up with someone totally new to the game when the roulette puts you in Sastasha. But thats an important reason we have the roulette: That it can put us there, when needed.
    Thats what your reward is for - to do something that you might not like, but that benefits other people. Something that benefits other people in the way they need right now, not in the way you'd be willing to offer yourself - and that might very well be Sastasha. Dont wanna do that? Dont get the reward. Fair and simple.
    Im not against it but what i am against is the ranged being fused togeather like 50-60 lvling should be its on let 60-70 also same let as should 1-50 and in future as should 70-80
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    So um can we get a down thumb system for each roulette type <not main though> we get 2 select 1 of the maps 2 down thump so we wont get that one
    The duty roulettes' purpose is to fill spots in instances that are needed, sometimes with players that need that dungeon to continue the story. Your suggestion undermines the roulette's purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol
    Yes... You hate online forum interactions because people don't agree with you. Seems legit. This is not an echo chamber. So what if you played other MMOs that let you do this. That's not this MMO. Plenty of folks here put out suggestions and improvements people have agreed upon and would actually benefit the game.

    Your idea... Is not one of those suggestions.
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    Out of curiosity can you name these other MMOs that not only have a "down thump" system, but also a system similar in design and purpose to the duty roulette, because I can't think of any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Out of curiosity can you name these other MMOs that not only have a "down thump" system, but also a system similar in design and purpose to the duty roulette, because I can't think of any.
    I know i know the answer

    its call of duty no wait that's not a mmo never mind then
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