Add in 1 map downthump

[PyurBlue]

For every 1 person who has a dungeon blocked, 3 will not get it. They would either have to create more backend "queues" for those people, or make the one person who is queued with it blocked in the middle of the 4 who are 1st in the queue to wait and fall back to a different spot on the queue. If the next set is also queued for that dungeon, then it could push them back even more.

One of those things already happens when you queue for a roulette without having all the dungeons in it, which is possible for every roulette except Mentor.

If the added wait time is put on the person opting out of a dungeon it shouldn't be a big deal, especially if the alternative is if they never queued at all and made wait times longer for everyone potentially. It could be that you help more people by increasing the roulette player pool instead of making a smaller player pool cover more content. I can't say if that's actually the case, but it might be. I don't think there would be much of a problem unless 1 or 2 dungeons were blocked by a large portion of the player base. Even if that was the case, you could put restrictions on how a player's dungeon list interacts with the queue. Maybe it could just be a preference instead of an outright block, so that if a player blocks X and no one is queuing for X specifically, X is removed from the list of available dungeons. However if someone was running X for the first time and queued for it, you could potentially be placed in that dungeon anyway.

[Violet_Galaxy]

roulette noun
rou·​lette | \ rü-ˈlet
\
Definition of roulette

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a gambling game in which players bet on which compartment of a revolving wheel a small ball will come to rest in
b : something involving a high degree of chance and unpredictability
2a : any of various toothed wheels or disks (as for producing rows of dots on engraved plates or for making short consecutive incisions in paper to facilitate subsequent division)
b : tiny slits between rows of stamps in a sheet that are made by a roulette and serve as an aid in separation — compare perforation

I feel like this is a troll thread.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

roulette noun
rou·​lette | \ rü-ˈlet
\
Definition of roulette

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a gambling game in which players bet on which compartment of a revolving wheel a small ball will come to rest in
b : something involving a high degree of chance and unpredictability
2a : any of various toothed wheels or disks (as for producing rows of dots on engraved plates or for making short consecutive incisions in paper to facilitate subsequent division)
b : tiny slits between rows of stamps in a sheet that are made by a roulette and serve as an aid in separation — compare perforation

I feel like this is a troll thread.

Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol

[Vidu]

Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol

What people have been trying to tell you is that it is infact not a better way - it is a more convient way for you, but that doesnt mean it is an overall better way for the game. Which it isnt. It would make matchmaking more difficult and lead to (even) longer waittimes specially for dps - the very thing the roulettes are supposed to help with. Considering that certain dungeons are universally hated - like Aurum Vale, but probably also DD and Toto-Rak... oh and you're not the only person who'd rather not see the early dungeons again - the wait for those would increase even further. Given that some of those are involved in progressing the mainquest that would be an overall bad thing for the game.

Stop being selfish - you're being reward for spending time in a dungeon that you didnt pick, but others did. There are alternative ways to gain exp and tomestones - they're a little less convient than roulettes, maybe, but there is your choice of inconvenience: The chance to get a dungeon you dont like... or a less effcient way to get your exp/tomes.

[Causality]

Lol this is y i hate forums /online things cuz if anyone thinks of a better way they get called that after some fool gets a defination. I have played mmos that let you select 1 map to never get as strategy games do this is STILL A GAMBLE 1 map out of all maps is still a gamble lol

That Game is not World of Warcraft.

How about this for Each One you check off the Rewards and XP get cut by 25% of the Maximum reward. You get 3 Checks. You check one dungeon you lose 25%, Two Dungeons you lose 50% of total reward, and 3 Dungeons you lose 75% of the Maximum reward. This is the Penalty for Stacking the odds in your favor.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

What people have been trying to tell you is that it is infact not a better way - it is a more convient way for you, but that doesnt mean it is an overall better way for the game. Which it isnt. It would make matchmaking more difficult and lead to (even) longer waittimes specially for dps - the very thing the roulettes are supposed to help with. Considering that certain dungeons are universally hated - like Aurum Vale, but probably also DD and Toto-Rak... oh and you're not the only person who'd rather not see the early dungeons again - the wait for those would increase even further. Given that some of those are involved in progressing the mainquest that would be an overall bad thing for the game.

Stop being selfish - you're being reward for spending time in a dungeon that you didnt pick, but others did. There are alternative ways to gain exp and tomestones - they're a little less convient than roulettes, maybe, but there is your choice of inconvenience: The chance to get a dungeon you dont like... or a less effcient way to get your exp/tomes.

Okay i get it you dont like it.. its still my personal opinion but w/e also its not selfish lol i run av,dd for fun and toto is meha don't rlly hate it.. the only 3 i hate are the first 3 because many jobs have no rotation there lol

[Vidu]

Okay i get it you dont like it.. its still my personal opinion but w/e also its not selfish lol i run av,dd for fun and toto is meha don't rlly hate it.. the only 3 i hate are the first 3 because many jobs have no rotation there lol

It is selfish though - no matter how much you like AV or how often you run it for fun, you clearly missed the point there. Those dungeons I mentioned were examples, that you happen to like them - good for you.

That doesnt change the fact that your proposed change would benefit one person while inconveniencing three other people (who now have to wait in the queue lonegr) and while putting more load on the system, that now not only needs to check your job and your level, but also wether or not the dungeon it could put you into right now is on your blacklist.

And trust me, I get not wanting to do the first three dungeons again, because it is indeed boring to play without your full rotation - but to me excluding Sastasha is even worse than excluding Aurum Vale, because excluding Sastasha means people dont get to do their very first dungeon and dont get to progress with their mainquest (and might rightfully quit the game over it right there). I know very well that you dont always end up with someone totally new to the game when the roulette puts you in Sastasha. But thats an important reason we have the roulette: That it can put us there, when needed.
Thats what your reward is for - to do something that you might not like, but that benefits other people. Something that benefits other people in the way they need right now, not in the way you'd be willing to offer yourself - and that might very well be Sastasha. Dont wanna do that? Dont get the reward. Fair and simple.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

It is selfish though - no matter how much you like AV or how often you run it for fun, you clearly missed the point there. Those dungeons I mentioned were examples, that you happen to like them - good for you.

That doesnt change the fact that your proposed change would benefit one person while inconveniencing three other people (who now have to wait in the queue lonegr) and while putting more load on the system, that now not only needs to check your job and your level, but also wether or not the dungeon it could put you into right now is on your blacklist.

And trust me, I get not wanting to do the first three dungeons again, because it is indeed boring to play without your full rotation - but to me excluding Sastasha is even worse than excluding Aurum Vale, because excluding Sastasha means people dont get to do their very first dungeon and dont get to progress with their mainquest (and might rightfully quit the game over it right there). I know very well that you dont always end up with someone totally new to the game when the roulette puts you in Sastasha. But thats an important reason we have the roulette: That it can put us there, when needed.
Thats what your reward is for - to do something that you might not like, but that benefits other people. Something that benefits other people in the way they need right now, not in the way you'd be willing to offer yourself - and that might very well be Sastasha. Dont wanna do that? Dont get the reward. Fair and simple.

Im not against it but what i am against is the ranged being fused togeather like 50-60 lvling should be its on let 60-70 also same let as should 1-50 and in future as should 70-80

[Causality]

Im not against it but what i am against is the ranged being fused togeather like 50-60 lvling should be its on let 60-70 also same let as should 1-50 and in future as should 70-80

They Scale the XP gains based on the dungeon you queue into to make up for the lower XP of Sastasha vrs getting Something like Bardam's Mettle. It increases the Queuing pool so Matchmaking occurs faster.

[JunseiKei]

So um can we get a down thumb system for each roulette type <not main though> we get 2 select 1 of the maps 2 down thump so we wont get that one

The duty roulettes' purpose is to fill spots in instances that are needed, sometimes with players that need that dungeon to continue the story. Your suggestion undermines the roulette's purpose.