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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    But the saddest thing to me is the fact that you cannot progress the relic whilst during normal activities such as running dungeons, trials, raids, roulettes, crafting, and all other methods previously made available in the earlier expansions.
    THIS!!! Other relics you could almost make progress on in the background as you did other things, or at the very least you have multiple options to achieve an end. There were annoying steps, of course, but the fact that Eureka is the only way to progress this relic is very annoying, even if Eureka weren't terrible. Sad I won't leave this expac with a relic, but oh well. I hope they don't repeat this for 5.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    THIS!!! Other relics you could almost make progress on in the background as you did other things, or at the very least you have multiple options to achieve an end. There were annoying steps, of course, but the fact that Eureka is the only way to progress this relic is very annoying, even if Eureka weren't terrible. Sad I won't leave this expac with a relic, but oh well. I hope they don't repeat this for 5.0.
    indeed. Also with the old relic and anima you could start to combine steps once cleared. Like running a dungeon needed both for books and the zodiac materials, or collecting umbrites and oils in advance while still on the unidentified items steps. Can't do that with eureka were the steps are clearly separated
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    I think the "first step skip" should be there for the people that one it. Also it makes it seem like you are a continually upgrading the same weapon doing that. However I traded 2 of my 2.0 relics for a head start ont eh 3.0 ones and later wished I hadn't. Felt like I died a little inside when I traded them, or like I had been kicked in the balls. I could trade the Eureka relic... what I have of it anyway... in a heartbeat tho.

    I think they should go back to the old way of doing the relic. Wonderous Tails isn't enough to keep the old content alive like the Relic could. Tho in all honestly I would like to see some more "personal" content for the relic. Like semi challenging solo instances to power up your weapon after you've collected stuff. And more story to the weapons.
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    Haxaan Shivar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Tho in all honestly I would like to see some more "personal" content for the relic. Like semi challenging solo instances to power up your weapon after you've collected stuff. And more story to the weapons.
    I 100% agree with this. I feel like even if the Relic was tied behind content (i.e. Eureka) but it had a compelling storyline, and solo achievements, or was even tied to "killing X Y Z NM's" with a purpose, it would give people even more pride and incentive to go out of their way to do it. I personally like Eureka and I'm ok with the Relic being tied behind it or other side content, but I definitely miss the back story element of it. The Relic Story line was completely overshadowed by the Eureka story line, and while the Eureka story line kind of ties it together, there is still a disconnect.

    The ARR relic had a running story, but each weapon also had it's own story which was compelling enough to make each one feel different. The HW relic story line was all about the soul of the weapon and it awakening which was really interesting and though the weapon itself didn't have a story it was 100% involved throughout the process. The SB relic is just a weapon made by Gerolt that really has no tie to the Eureka story arc, which does feel bland. I'm really hoping that the next relic will go back to and hopefully surpass ARR and HW as far as personal story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxaan View Post
    The SB relic is just a weapon made by Gerolt that really has no tie to the Eureka story arc, which does feel bland.
    It's not even made by Gerolt. He talks about upgrading your equipment, and it just conveniently happens to be that the gear from your level 70 job quest is usable as a starting point. There's no attempt to give any of it any meaningful connection.
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    hmm. i dont know. i actually like the idea of Eureka. i think there needs to be more in it, to make it better. but an area that plays with a different focus from the rest of the game was very refreshing to me, and i enjoy it when im up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadan2000 View Post
    hmm. i dont know. i actually like the idea of Eureka. i think there needs to be more in it, to make it better. but an area that plays with a different focus from the rest of the game was very refreshing to me, and i enjoy it when im up for it.
    The problem with Eureka['s idea] is it has already been tried thrice now. How many more times will it take before they get it right, assuming they ever will?
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    The problem with Eureka['s idea] is it has already been tried thrice now. How many more times will it take before they get it right, assuming they ever will?
    They even learned during Eureka and it got much better. Pagos was obviously bad, especially the map design and leveling process.

    I think with Pyros and Hydatos they almost got it right.
    Leveling is fast, Logos actions are fun but not necessary, at lvl cap you can spawn half the fates solo, map design with aetherytes got much better, bunnys got better.
    Whats missing is the Group-lvl-sync , better droprates for some stuff and maybe some daily quests inside the Instance.
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    While people spent months for braindead grinding to end getting the ugliest glamours ever made I finished some ARR and HW relics I missed by just playing casually. Enjoy the final slap for supporting the worst content ever made for XIV.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    While people spent months for braindead grinding to end getting the ugliest glamours ever made I finished some ARR and HW relics I missed by just playing casually. Enjoy the final slap for supporting the worst content ever made for XIV.
    Are you really comparing max level content that is still currently updated and content released years ago and nerfed multiple times because it was not at level cap anymore ?

    Do you also laugh at people taking several weeks to obtain their i390 weapon while you can obtain an i120 in a day ?
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-15-2019 at 08:44 PM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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