Regarding the Revision of the Prohibited Activities and Account Penalty Policy

[Insertcoins]

I honestly feel like EVERYONE is over reactting to a massive degree here. It seriously feels like people just want to be mean or not be a decent person to people who suck or whatever without action. I'm not saying thats it but thats what it SEEMS like anyway. Look we're all adults here right? If so use your brain. Yes you can't stop some bad apple from reporting someone for stupid reasons but remember, if you done nothing wrong then nothing will happen to you. Yes mistakes happen, they happened BEFORE this change and will continue to happen. It's really as simple as this, don't be an asshole. Simple. And no, adding whatifs to that isn't going to change if you're NOT a brick then you're going to be fine. The forums are the way it is because SEE hired another company to police it and SE doesn't police THEM. THATS why you have the cases of bans out of nowhere, but ake those with a grain of salt. Cause from my time reading these fourms noone is inocent 100% of the time. We all swear, which is funny enough against the rules. So yeah. Just, act like you would at work. You wouldn't yell at a coworker and expect not to be handled by your boss would you? - tho funny enough if you're in the army that might not hold true... but that's an outliner.- Just be kool and you're most likely be fine. Thats it thats all.

[Senliten]

The only implication I see resulting from this, is the kind of "self-policing" that got the Stanford Prison Experiment shut down.

Had to do a bit of digging on this, but holy hell first impression is that is some dark stuff. And now i am going to quench that curiosity of mine with watching one of the documentaries while waiting for some work to finish up. Ty for that

[FFgame]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about.
Since last 48 hours I have reported 3 tanks for slow pulling, 5 healers for not dpsing, and countless dps for making me deeply and emotionally distressed and offended by their lack of what I term to be satisfactory dps @70.

[Lium]

Except that's not what the rules say. They literally say you can get punished for "hurting or obstructing" someone EVEN IF IT WASN'T YOUR INTENTION. How the hell can I avoid "hurting or obstructing" someone unless I ask every single person i ever party with what their definitions of "hurt and obstruction" are before we play together? Also your description of "not being a shitlord" is equally vague and stupid.

EDIT: So I guess this means I can report anyone who says "Oh no not this dungeon" at the start of a dungeon I enjoy, just because I disagree with them and think it's fun. And if they argue with me, I'll just become outraged and say they "hurt and obstructed" me.

Some of these new rules make sense, but the thinly-veiled politically correct nonsense needs to stop.

You sure can report them. And then sit back and watch as absolutely nothing happens to the person you reported, because the GMs will be able to tell that what you did is a perfect example of abusing the system. This is the kind of dumb example I was talking about. People screaming that the sky will fall now.

C'mon. Be an adult.

[WaterShield]

You sure can report them. And then sit back and watch as absolutely nothing happens to the person you reported, because the GMs will be able to tell that what you did is a perfect example of abusing the system. This is the kind of dumb example I was talking about. People screaming that the sky will fall now.

C'mon. Be an adult.

You just assumed their age. How dare you. That's ageist and against the rules. You should be ashamed.

[Lium]

You just assumed their age. How dare you. That's ageist and against the rules. You should be ashamed.

Then by all means report me and watch as nothing happens.

[WaterShield]

Then by all means report me and watch as nothing happens.

I'd rather people had the ability to talk things out with clearly defined rules dictating what is too far.

Just giving an example of what we're in for with the new rules.

Edit: Also not in the habit of making frivolous reports to make a point. I'd rather not take the chance that you actually get punished.

[Gemina]

A while back ago in an instance of Shisui I was healing. I was DPS'ing as a healer. I was keeping everyone alive. In the middle of the first boss, another player started going off about how I should stick to healing. They hadn't died by this point, or anyone else, I simply hadn't brought them to 100% HP. They were clearly under emotional distress, despite me performing my absolute best for the party and not having said ANYTHING by then other than possibly "hello" at the beginning of the instance.

So how is that resolved under these rules?

It isn't, because yours is one of two sides to the story. For all we know, you could be FoS and tunnel visioned the entire time in there. But going by just what you said, no corrective action would be taken against you because you didn't do anything wrong. However, you could report this person because they ARE harassing you. It's the very definition of it. He/she is also obstructing gameplay by trying to get a chat response out of you during a boss fight. These changes are not in place to punish good players who are respectful and courteous. If you are one of these players, then be at ease.

[Lium]

I'd rather people had the ability to talk things out with clearly defined rules dictating what is too far.

Just giving an example of what we're in for.

We're not in for anything. Nothing is going to change.

[PharisHanasaki]

Then you will be completely fine with having yourself getting disciplined for things you say in chat or perform in the game that could be harmless to you and your closest friends, but not to 3rd party who is witness the action or can see the words you typed on the screen. You will be good with being disciplined, even if it is no more than a warning at first, for such words and actions due to the broadness of the rules and the lack of SE defined terms.

I won't be disciplined. Chat logs are checked before issuing penalties. I do not give advice that was not requested, I don't kick people, and eat penalties even when it's it's someone else ruining my experience. I allow and even suggest people to take time to watch cutscenes (I love the story) and wait for them to finish before engqging a boss. I intervene when someone is harrassing a player that does not know mechs, and say it's fine just do x or y. If they take my advice, fine, if not then fine. I tried. I don't feel threathened by these rules.