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  1. #41
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    If there's one thing I know about power, it is that it is easily abused.
    People already are abusing their power. As Tanks or Healers. "I'm not some slave!"
    But you actively choose to queue as a tank or healer. You choose to be that role. You could have face-rolled as dps.

    These rules are going to mostly adhere to those types of people who constantly dip or stride themselves on power-trips.
    Nobody wants to deal with that.

    And for those who say early pullers - the same can be said for the trains who go nuts on people who find the monster outside of it before they do and make falsifying statements claiming it was sniped. Then go on to say they will make their experience on the said server a nightmare with DEATH THREATS. Yeah those train communities I hope this goes out to them.
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  2. #42
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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    ◆Offensive expression
    "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:

    ・Expressions that compel a playing style

    According to the rules, there isn't. If that person wants to main tank EX primals in Sword Oath, you will respect their playstyle or your ass is out the door.
    If I find their playstyle incompatable with mine, I will leave. Why should I argue and lose time and energy over that? If they didn't listen the first time, they likely won't listen the second time. If they are adamant about (as example) playing in Sword Oath during an Ex primal farm/clear and I see no progress being done I see no point why should one argue instead of simply leave and find/form another group.
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  3. #43
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    People already are abusing their power. As Tanks or Healers. "I'm not some slave!"
    But you actively choose to queue as a tank or healer. You choose to be that role. You could have face-rolled as dps.

    These rules are going to mostly adhere to those types of people who constantly dip or stride themselves on power-trips.
    Nobody wants to deal with that.
    Now I think you're the one who is trolling. Deciding "I, as a human being and not a slave, who is capable of making my own decisions and who is not beholden to serving you, choose not to continue this duty any longer" is not a "power trip" nor is it "abusing power".
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  4. #44
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    If I find their playstyle incompatable with mine, I will leave. Why should I argue and lose time and energy over that? If they didn't listen the first time, they likely won't listen the second time. If they are adamant about (as example) playing in Sword Oath during an Ex primal farm/clear and I see no progress being done I see no point why should one argue instead of simply leave and find/form another group.
    And now you can be banned for leaving so that's no longer a option
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  5. #45
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    According to the rules, there isn't. If that person wants to main tank EX primals in Sword Oath, you will respect their playstyle or your ass is out the door.
    Until their playstyle is deemed obstructive to the rest of the party's game-time and progress, which is another aspect the GMs will have to consider when judging this.
    At which point I think it will matter how you asked them to switch stances.
    Alternatively, have fun getting banned, basically everyone.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 02-12-2019 at 04:08 PM.

  6. #46
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    Troy La'fabulous
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    Excalibur
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    If the Game Master (GM) gives an instruction based on the Terms of Use and/or other rules, failure to follow the instruction is a violation. If you are given an instruction by the GM, please follow this immediately.
    Yes Sir/Ma'am!
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  7. #47
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    If I find their playstyle incompatable with mine, I will leave. Why should I argue and lose time and energy over that? If they didn't listen the first time, they likely won't listen the second time. If they are adamant about (as example) playing in Sword Oath during an Ex primal farm/clear and I see no progress being done I see no point why should one argue instead of simply leave and find/form another group.
    ◆Obstruction of play
    "Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

    ・Intentional leaving or disconnection
    This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

    They weren't able to get the clear because you left. Reported.
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  8. #48
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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    And now you can be banned for leaving so that's no longer a option
    Why should I be banned? I excuse myself and leave. You should consider GMs are not bots, these are people there.
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  9. #49
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Brynhildr
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    Well everyone we arent ppl any more we are pets and slaves 2 ppl
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  10. #50
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    And now you can be banned for leaving so that's no longer a option
    That's wrong. Reread it:
    This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.
    No one is forcing you to run things you don't want to run, with parties you don't want to run it with. That's what the deserter's penalty is in place for. What they're talking about is baiting the offline-kick by closing your game to force a DC status, or tweaking your network for the same effect. Which would still be hard but not impossible to prove, given that network issues just... exist and are a thing people deal with.

    People need to calm down and actually read the thing before they get this upset over things. The fine prints is often the most important part of rules like these
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