Regarding the Revision of the Prohibited Activities and Account Penalty Policy

[Shuuchi]

Correction. It is only dividing the American playerbase. The Japanese playerbase, from what others have said, don't seem to give a crap.

Shocking that Americans are freaking out that they can't be dicks to others now. Whatever will they do?!

You just broke the new rules.
Please refer to my post on page 44 for more details on JP.

[zztoluca]

Correction. It is only dividing the American playerbase. The Japanese playerbase, from what others have said, don't seem to give a crap.

Shocking that Americans are freaking out that they can't be dicks to others now. Whatever will they do?!

Its not about being rude, its about people having the policy to feel offended for the most mundane things ever. Potentially being punished for providing constructive criticism on how to play a job is ludicrous.

Its as someone said, they added a axe over our heads that can come down at any minute. Regardless of them saying they wont use it doesnt change the fact the axe is still there and can be used at their discretion.

[Freyt]

Correction. It is only dividing the American playerbase. The Japanese playerbase, from what others have said, don't seem to give a crap.

Shocking that Americans are freaking out that they can't be dicks to others now. Whatever will they do?!

Perhaps if half of us weren't out to get the other half, then maybe we'd trust each other a little more.

[Hyperon]

Correction. It is only dividing the American playerbase. The Japanese playerbase, from what others have said, don't seem to give a crap.

Shocking that Americans are freaking out that they can't be dicks to others now. Whatever will they do?!

Discriminatory expressions about a state/religion/occupation/organisation, etc.

Be careful. Its weird to defend the current vague rules by then breaking one of the vague rules.

[KaivaC]

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[MirielleLavandre]

I'm Japanese and I can say pretty confidently that most of my friends and I see these rule changes as not really a big deal and more for just the US side of things -- in effect, there won't be any real difference in the way JPN play since most all of what is considered 'new' changes were pretty much understood to be common courtesy anyway. Maybe a little clarification was needed, but no one really cares since nothing changes except for that playerbase. Here in the US, however, I can see how these changes might seem downright harsh, but in the end it just comes down to being respectful. Every report will be looked at, chat logs analyzed, and wrongful reports punished so people don't abuse them.

Also, in response to someone who posted that the rules need to be exact and much more focused, they actually need to be subtle so that individual context can be considered. If they were exact, people would carefully scrutinize them to find the best way to get around them using the 'letter of the law' rather then intent. Being vague allows the GMs more leeway to truly examine each situation and apply the rules as needed.

[Lium]

There needs to be clear rules, clear boundaries of behavior and conduct.

These new rules are pretty darn clear to me (with the exception of the "intentionally leaving" part, but another poster clarified that). And I think this is 46 pages of cultural freakout. Americans don't like ANYTHING that can be seen as restricting freedom of speech, even if no real restriction exists. We just like to over react because that's what Americans do.

For example. If I was running a PUG dungeon and I noticed the SMN wasn't using any DOTs, and I said to them "Hey summoner, use your dots lol" and the SMN responded with "Don't tell me how to play my job! Reported!" (This actually happened once, but it was the tank who told the SMN to use their dots.), I could guarantee you nothing would happen to me. Because the GM would look at the chat logs and see I wasn't being snarky or antagonistic. If I had said something along the lines of what you would see in WoW or LoL, then yes, I'd get in trouble. And rightfully so.

There is a clear distinction here.

[Fliss]

These new rules are pretty darn clear to me (with the exception of the "intentionally leaving" part, but another poster clarified that). And I think this is 46 pages of cultural freakout. Americans don't like ANYTHING that can be seen as restricting freedom of speech, even if no real restriction exists. We just like to over react because that's what Americans do.

You do realize that not all of us are American, right? Canadians and people from Europe play this game too.

[zztoluca]

These new rules are pretty darn clear to me (with the exception of the "intentionally leaving" part, but another poster clarified that). And I think this is 46 pages of cultural freakout. Americans don't like ANYTHING that can be seen as restricting freedom of speech, even if no real restriction exists. We just like to over react because that's what Americans do.

For example. If I was running a PUG dungeon and I noticed the SMN wasn't using any DOTs, and I said to them "Hey summoner, use your dots lol" and the SMN responded with "Don't tell me how to play my job! Reported!" (This actually happened once, but it was the tank who told the SMN to use their dots.), I could guarantee you nothing would happen to me. Because the GM would look at the chat logs and see I wasn't being snarky or antagonistic. If I had said something along the lines of what you would see in WoW or LoL, then yes, I'd get in trouble. And rightfully so.

There is a clear distinction here.

You realise NA includes all of North and South America, Caribbeans and many OCE and EU players that play. This isnt an "American" thing.

Your post is quite offensive to exclude others according to the new revisions to policy.

[Vaer]

Correction. It is only dividing the American playerbase. The Japanese playerbase, from what others have said, don't seem to give a crap.

Shocking that Americans are freaking out that they can't be dicks to others now. Whatever will they do?!

This post is a good example of why they changed the rules.