Healer pulling?

[KalisimBellatora]

Is it okay for a healer to pull mobs in a raid/dungeon with an ability that heals and damages?

Last week, my FC & I were doing Orbonne. An AST set Earthly Star in the midst of a group of mobs before anyone had pulled. It eventually went off before the tanks pulled, causing the mobs to attack.

Being an AST main, I disagreed with the AST setting it before the fight began, since it could (and did) pull mobs before tanks were ready. My raid leader, also a healer main, said it was excusable, since it was in anticipation of healing a tank.

I’d like some opinions from other players of varying roles and raid experience. What is your opinion on the matter? No matter your stance, please try to be respectful of everyone else here. Thank you! ^.^

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Is it okay for a healer to pull mobs in a raid/dungeon with an ability that heals and damages?

Last week, my FC & I were doing Orbonne. An AST set Earthly Star in the midst of a group of mobs before anyone had pulled. It eventually went off before the tanks pulled, causing the mobs to attack.

Being an AST main, I disagreed with the AST setting it before the fight began, since it could (and did) pull mobs before tanks were ready. My raid leader, also a healer main, said it was excusable, since it was in anticipation of healing a tank.

I’d like some opinions from other players of varying roles and raid experience. What is your opinion on the matter? No matter your stance, please try to be respectful of everyone else here. Thank you! ^.^

The ast was just bad lol i mostly play ast as well

[Risvertasashi]

If it was a dungeon I'd ask why the tank hadn't pulled after 20 seconds.

Alliance raids are always a crapshow, though. If it wasn't the healer it's often an impatient DPS. Anyways, no, the AST shouldn't have pulled, but that's really a very minor thing on the list of offences that happens in those dark places.

[CorbinDallas]

There's no point even discussing something like this without knowing the intentions of the player. You said it yourself there are arguments both sides.

[Crushnight]

I find if ready check has gone through and countdown starts then placing Earthly star is fine even should countdown be stopped for whatever reason once Earthly star is placed it will be pulled in next 20 to 30 secs. Now 24m are a mix bag you may have ready checks or you may not same with countdowns so they may have done it preemptively based on random instant pull which never happened XD

[InkstainedGwyn]

Yeah that's unnecessary - a tank shouldn't have taken enough damage on an initial pull to warrant earthly star anyway. That's a skill better used to cover group damage like aoes or things like Cid's cleansing strike. Sounds like just a showoff healer.

[Seddrinth]

It's an alliance raid anything goes. There are no rules.

[ElazulHP]

Sure! If the healer wants to tank the boss they can have at it and see how it goes :P

[Vidu]

...honestly under those circumstances its more a case of "tank NOT pulling (within a timely manner)" and not so much "Healer pulling".

Its obviously the tanks job to pull the boss, but the tank also has to do that job. Now, I cant tell wether or not its a good idea to put Earthly Star down at the beginning of a fight, but 20 seconds til it goes off are way than enough for the tank to engage the boss. There is nothing that annoys me more than tanks standing infront of a boss, but arent pulling (unless ofc there is some sort of reason, like someone said "brb").

The healer shouldnt have pulled the boss, because a tank should have done so way before Earthly Star went off.

[Alestorm]

"you spank it, you tank it" comes to mind.